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You confirm the "many worlds theory" :)

Posted a picture from Croydon earlier in the year of relay able box on rear of property same as the above Anyway my contact for the job was the son of an alarm company owner in Essex... For a Mo I thought the late firme member Arfur as it was same town he lived in !

I was at junior school, looking back it was probably happiest I ever was, loads of mates, playing every sport going (badly), a gang of lasses fighting over me, tea on the table by my mother & an endless summer where I'd make @al-yeti look like an albino... :)

Ive only seen one other system that used EOL batteries, it was a Securicor Granley system, not sure I remember the model number, may have been a TM14 or TM15 and I think it was a 4 zone system. Long time ago now 1988 and it was an old obsolete model then.

Cool you got the key

Acquired this recently; thought I'd do a post for anyone interested. This is a very old Auto Call alarm system dating back to 1959. The control panel is what's known as a G Type. Designed by a guy called Ted Gant hence the name of the panel. Fitted by Auto Call and also Ideal Fire and Burglary. The system consists of a large panel box that houses 4 flag cell batteries and a set of control relays. Then theres a smaller hinged box known as the control panel thats got a red lamp, three position wafer switch, and keyswitch mounted to the front. Then theres the bell box which housed a gent bell and occasionally had a tamper loop around the cover. And finally a small wooden box which contained a set of flag cells connected at the end of the alarm zone/circuit. Some systems had an auto dialler fitted top which would send a pre recorded message to a police via a vinyl record.

That's the other yeti with different parcels This yeti got a really fast one

old pictures missing ? I only remember Rocky v Apollo Creed, in a parallel universe the other al-yeti got his really fast parcel really slow ?

Since upgrade my sw delivery was really fast So must be good upgrade 😜

Would welcome some feedback on the upgrade. those that know its rocky vs centos, but im bound to like cos of time spent.

Not in your area mate

I proper dont get the love for enforcer, but yes better than a risco

I'd assume an Agility 3 would support the old stuff ? However Agility 4 is the current product, Personally I'd bin the lot & get an enforcer

I've never heard of it nor been asked about it

Completely agree on the risk, @shabir Data integrity is the non-negotiable part here. The dilemma is always the cost/time of a full re-cable vs. the client's push for immediate 'compliance'. I’ve been looking into some OSDP transparent converters that claim to handle the encryption at the end-points specifically to mitigate the noise issues on older non-twisted pairs. It seems like a potential middle ground for sites where the physical infrastructure is just too painful to rip out, but the audit trail still needs to be AES-128. Have you ever found a specific converter or a signal conditioning setup that actually held up in an audit without a full re-wire, or is the consensus in the field still 'new copper or bust' for high-security zones?

ok - thanks

Googles your friend....

Yeh you got to be careful due to data. Its a big risk but always recommend to recable if the cable isnt twisted pair or screened

With wireless systems you need all devices to be compatible. This usually means upgrading all devices. But some panels offer backwards compatibility. The wisdom was old 1 way tech as such no

Hello everyone, I have a Risco Wisdom wireless alarm system. Can I upgrade the box and keep the wireless sensors?

Hi all, I’m currently looking at a retrofit project for a commercial site that wants to ditch their old Wiegand readers for something more secure—ideally OSDP v2 to meet their new IT insurance requirements. The headache is the existing cabling. It’s mostly unshielded, and as we know, OSDP over long runs can be finicky without proper twisted pairs. I’m trying to avoid a full re-wire if possible, but I'm worried about the data integrity for their higher-security zones. Has anyone here had success using OSDP converters on legacy cables for high-stakes areas? Or is it always a case of "pull new copper or don't bother" when it comes to meeting modern audit standards? Would love to hear some field experience on where you draw the line between 'secure enough' and a total infrastructure overhaul.

its only took days of planning and actually making it work. If id of read the manual who knows Its ipb5 so way more responsive on mobile vs desktop but i dont like the home view

You know we don't look at manuals and instructions, took me a while to notice the tabs at bottom , making it a good upgrade I think

Hopefully all done for now