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  2. Hollanda
    Yep, suspended floors on an Edwardian house (see pic). All exposed and in good condition. Only one room has been sanded by previous owner - and some of these sanded and non-sanded floorboards are already up (for the rewire job we had). Thanks @al-yeti good advice. Will keep this in mind. I’ll probably lift a few that are already up and have a nosey
  3. Yesterday
  4. al-yeti
    Maybe, but we don't all have same ideas and I have been on a site where other engineers gave me better ideas Maybe wait until your engineer turns up and starts and brain storm with him Usually if I think I am going to damage anything I won't go ahead especially on residential, always good to check with owner if there happy with it Some don't care at all , they say drill it break and say decorator is being paid to fix it ..........,
  5. MrHappy
    Therapy session... A suspended floor is normally an old house with little walls under the joists ? Old as in Victorian or Edwardian, if you've not seen the floor boards yet, don't be surprised to find they're been smashed to feck by new fangled inventions like internal plumbing, central heating or 3 different electrical installations.
  6. Hollanda
    @al-yeti because it’s the weekend and itching to start sanding floors now I also tend to discuss ideas/thoughts with a wider community - good to have multiple viewpoints e.g. one electrician that wanted to do a job said he would have to destroy our cornices to get a wire through, but another electrician said he could get it done without damaging cornices. It’s obvious who got the job! So it was good to discuss it with multiple people to understand the work/options etc. Anyway I’m finding this a great place to learn about security related decisions. Everyone has been so helpful, so I guess sometimes I get carried away!
  7. al-yeti
    You said above you have organised an install , why not just now deal with installer?
  8. Hollanda
    @MrHappy I didn’t really understand - is this a trademark rant? Going back to hardwiring - when you folks run security cables under suspended floors, do you need to lift all the floorboards or just a few? We have a few of our pine floorboards up already, but trying to understand how many more will need to be lifted. Also assuming you drill through the joists and run the cables through there? I need to sand my floorboards down so trying to figure out how to organise sanding with the wiring. I’m happy to delay the sanding but ideally I’d get on with sanding before the cables are even run
  9. al-yeti
    Of course..... Lol
  10. norman
    Meth
  11. al-yeti
    Confused dot com lol thread hijack at its best or your pissed in macds
  12. Last week
  13. MrHappy
    I definitely don't do FCU's So I did not wait ages for the correct Hager MCB to arrive via courier I did not take a take a colleague with me to take the front off a BFO hager 3 phase distribution board which might have been 5ft tall So I do not experience the kick in the teeth to find whilst the left hand side of the board had all the correct MCB's the the right hand side was arranged with a matching set of wrong breakers with the on /off label stuck on the other way Left hand side on - points to the bus-bar in the middle of the board whilst the right side points away from the bus bar I did not do this on Thursday so are not sat at home on Friday night still really pissed off about it...
  14. Hollanda
    Thanks folks. I’m looking for a balance - reasonable quality but not paying over the odds and not over engineering something simple. I’ll have a look at what you’ve suggested
  15. MrHappy
    All sound cheap, if you want cheap - Annke
  16. al-yeti
    Hkc have them, some are not impressed with pic quality But it will do for quick snap shot Do main CCTV outside instead
  17. Hollanda
    @al-yeti I didn’t know PIR cameras exist thanks for this. What models do you reckon I should look at? For context it looks like pretty soon I’ll have a HKC system installed (thanks for turning me away from Pyronix)!
  18. al-yeti
    If it's for entry why not add PIR cameras for snapshots? Depends what you picked in the end Ring camera system and others like it rely on movement , they don't have any kind of trigger where you can integrate the alarm and them So you would have to enter as opposed to look to see why it triggered and so on
  19. Hollanda
    Hi all, Now that an intruder alarm is in the pipeline (thanks to all your help), I’m looking into other aspects of security, and wondering if you could share any tips/experiences on the following. What’s a good budget indoor camera and NVR bundle? I want the NVR to have enough storage for around ~28 days of 1080p footage from 2-3 indoor cameras. The indoor cameras can be wireless. In the future I may want to integrate 1-2 external PoE cameras to the NVR. Alternatively it seems a lot less hassle to buy 3 Ring indoor cameras and rely on the home subscription bundle to store videos in the cloud (with microphone muted ) I did look at Eufy but feels very limited and I’ve read something about having to expand HD storage myself. Other things I’d consider are a Reolink Hybrid or Lorex bundle but I haven’t looked at the prices for these yet. I plan to point these cameras at the entry points that have wireless shock/contact sensors (my way of sussing out a false alarm when I’m not home).
  20. norman
    iirc the high security Rapier had a gel covered anti drill panel across the front of it.
  21. norman
    lol
  22. MrHappy
    proper engineering...
  23. DockerDave
    They were designed so if they were drilled, once the drill bit shorted the two covers it caused a tamper alarm. I got called out to a bank one horrible winters night to a tamper fault on the bell box which you could hardly see because of the snow. I asked the assistant manager if he hand a sweeping brush. He thought i was going to clear the snow on the path for my ladders. Should have seen his face when i twatted the delta bell with the brush loosening all the snow that had blown in the vent causing high resistance.
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  25. Rover75
    hi here’s link to Chubb bell box on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/397230205657?_skw=chubb+bell+box&itmmeta=01K99V9RAW8N5Z2R4XTZAE4380&hash=item5c7cc3ead9:g:b1gAAeSwL9lpCxxg&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1fiZ5dD%2F3799Sl%2Bw3JY9waSmqHhnqvElagExtemhuuU%2BFezF9MKBTppwpayO4bPlj4yUuYPVkkqlHtDJUy5QBjwqsIsT9HrwoEU7Gp2v%2BIYLB7Dyyp%2BeJcARkdMJ7xHvP9%2BOt%2BVw0WSt0Bc%2Bl6WDSvnHG9ndjBmlPOFajYNj16ZLLt6Mp8NUgwTcjT9515KFSv03FxQgi2sOMBpmT96H%2Bojc%2FQ%2BkbusZykX1VAfyoIi5m8hjL2Tg%2Bx1HFF8XSId71c%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9iFp7vKZg
  26. Rover75
    Hi here’s some photos of my old Chubb bell box from 70s I am listing it on eBay today. Bonfire night 2025 will not let me upload photos says file to big I put an eBay link on shorty
  27. Rover75
  28. james.wilson
    Put your meter on ac volts Pos probe to 12v dc Neg probe to good mains earth Check reading with mains on and mains off Ensure meter isn't in current probe position
  29. Rekusu
    Transformer output 18v Battery 12.5v Battery connection when not connected 13.5v How do I check the ac volts on the dc side?
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