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TBF that looks like regular social housing plastering.

yes & my late, great, cockney mate fitted the cooker ring into the ceiling..... Miss you uncle Arf!

Thanks for this really interesting thread, re Yale. I suppose the reason that I painted the siren box black was due to the relative cheapness of the system. I don't expect a cheap system, home installed, to match those put in by industry specialists. I did look about, and got some quotes for a replacement, but they seemed soo expensive to buy. I was offered 'savings' greater than the cost of the Yale, and then I was asked to pay quite a high maintenance charge to boot. My Defender cost me enough over the years, and I wasn't in the ball park for that sort of upfront, and continuing cost for my replacement. I suppose it is like everything else, you get what you pay for.