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Unlikely op had engineer code , just wants to know how to unlock from start

Are these makes ? couldnt find them to investigate......so another gardtec isn’t necessarily simpler for the upgrade ? just can’t afford £400 been quoted for two new KP’s and a panel..... would one one of the systems you suggest accept the sensor cabling I have without modding....resistors etc ? thanks be cheaper to buy a dog LOL

Hello thanks all the advice observations and comments..... Based on what’s been said.....i have decided to abandon the present alarm system altogether and go for a wireless one.....easier to install also.. Some of the alarm wiring was installed in 1987 so not sure how long it will be before any of that fails, buried between floorboards, in walls etc etc....... so just need a good wireless alarm system, with approx 11 PIR’s 5 door sensors 3-4 smoke alarms 1-2 KP’s ( need partset overnight so may need 2 KP,s) thanks again

We’ll call it a day, didn’t come on here to be mocked....... wanted some help to some serious quaestions......I will find out another way.. as I said the wiring is 30 years old, so a wireless system seems the way to go....... maybe this can can be closed now, don’t think I will find out what I need.....

Thanks, for all the help will stick with wired, seems sensible and as you point out cheaper and more reliable.... i need a new panel and two keypads.....so if the consensus is a 600 I will go with that... Could you explain the EOL reference ? Sounds like end of line....... i live in essex, any suggestions for an installer ? thanks

Going to try and keep the existing alarm working until I can afford a gardtec 600 or similar...just the panel and two keypads... just powered down my 800 and attempted to default codes master code now at default but entering default eng code does not bring up an engineer message i changed the engineer code from that provided, many years ago, but somehow the system ‘ forgot it ‘ so can’t be locked I assume ? thanks any ideas please ?

.?? How much for a panel and two keypads, I have no idea......and a typical install time and hourly rate.... My electrician friend has changed his mind, have two alarm installers local, but they very seldom reply to emils could do with a recommendation in Essex SS8 area

Thanks for the info and prices....is everyone agreed the 600 is the way to go ? 8 PIR’s 8 Smoke detectors 3 door contacts Defaulted the system reset the master code, now changed to one I will remember ..but engineer not doing anything...I have never locked the engineer code I have used the one I changed it to several years ago without problem, then one day it was gone... is there a jumper i can set to reset this ? thanks Ps does it usually like like this inside the control panel, so many connecting blocks ....looks untidy....installed by a longstanding pro company