The problem is Hik and Dahua are no longer shit, not when all things are considered. Most of the people who fit it seem to be, this is why fixed wide angle lenses are so popular. If you ask the average engineer what back focusing is or BLC or HLC he could not tell you. They also think that 4k is more important than anything else such as FPS. Anyone can install CCTV and make pretty pictures on a screen very few can make good recordings of crimes.