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Lol Ok you finally got me , this is your best quote so far in this forum Chris no offence , don't come looking me cos we are cool right ? (I better keep bat next to my pillow)

I was toying with ringing his office for advice on a matter & or a fight!

Did you have tags before? NO Have you installed the reader correctly? Seems it can only fit one way with the 4 prongs on the bottom Was it powered down when you installed it? Installed in new keypad prior to wiring How are you learning the tags? In menu options but just get a beep Are the tags or reader duff? Tried around 10 tags so doubt all of them are duff. Possibility prox reader is faulty. Is there a way to test? OOI how much was this museum find of a keypad? £35