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Cunts that text and drive want their fingers broken never mind banned.

well I guess that's me on the naughty step - If you want to be an alarm man get a job with an alarm company. You not going to get any much experience buying tat from ebay, reading books or asking on an alarm themed forum

yes if you have posted your serial no for your bell box we could have located it on the internet, selected abba on your alexa & turn the central heating up to maximum...

My last post on this forum was nearly 5 years ago. I have came out of retirement to tell you this... I down-voted your last post.

Until someone invented something that puts our industry in jeopardy

there ain't none, however there are a set of big boys rules.... when taking other peoples tat over you either have to the product knowledge of how to over come any lock or quirks of the product or have enough £ in the job to put your own stuff in from either the start or retain the subscriber for enough years to make it pay.. confiture demain, as you might say ? Sadly a few hundred quid for new control can be a problem as the subscribers can be living had to month with the latest I-Phones, Range Rovers & shirt sponsoring the local professional sports team... taking priority

I'd give 'em a new system provide they have maintenance & out the yale tat on ebay or in the bin if don't sell...

If your looking for a security forum with no pisstaking.... you've made the wrong choice You'll need an eng code to make programming changes to your system, a 1/2 decent alarm monkey could probably move all your devices about with just a customer code

you do chat shit.... ADT employ the very best & sometimes the very worst engineers, However there the market leading co. why don't you try & get a job there & get some real world experience of alarms ?

I don`t think, £13 a month for an annual inspection, 24 hour support, and use of a Smartphone APP is not bad value for money, technicians have to be trained, which be available 24 x 7, if self employed they also have to pay for life`s little things, food, fuel, Public Liability Insurance, fund there own training time, none of which is paid etc etc. funny how people accept paying say for a Private Dentist, Doctor, Solicitor etc, but fail to realise the vast amount of knowledge a professional installer has to collect from experience. To be fair, we use bundles of Agility 3, but really there is little money in the initial sale, for us, maintenance is where we make our money to provide on going technical support, technicians and all the other things we need to pay. For example today we are having our Upgrade NSI inspection from NSI for ISO 9001:2015, so I`m paying £450 per day for NSI & £440 per day for our Contract Quality Assurance Consultant, all paid by maintenance contributions, and all to retain our Gold Status, end of.

Oh dear "Jock McTightSporran" is asking a forum which mainly populated alarm monkeys why their employed. What goes wrong with your simple house alarm? Well there will be at least 2 battery's which don't last forever, reed contacts which will eventually fail (open or closed) or cause false alarm.... same for the relays within powered sensors Checking a bells only system annually as per BS/EN ensures they work correctly (think MOT) if you where a paying subscriber you could have your system in working order rather spending your spare time hunting down a manual for the old tat of an alarm on your wall. However you pays your money & make your choice, Power down the "skip fodder" of an alarm system & restart it on mains power only, with all tamper & lids close it made take you code If not buy something like a veritas 8 & new battery & have a bash at sort it Or find a local alarm co. (proper ones might only do the work if their maintaining it) & ask for cost of them updating the system

If it is so simple why are you talking about wiring normally closed detectors in parallel or dualtechs for detecting bricks? My question was because your initial few posts seemed like you were a sparky who had bitten off more than you can chew on a clients job. Happy bodging.

Exactly Norman, hence why I am asking the question on a professional security forum. Haven't fitted many myself but thought I would seek advice. Nothing worse than fitting ***** that you keep getting called back for.

All master blasters must be fitted directly above the keypad for use on bell tests

Agreed, we were quite conservative with the www with our two kids, both of them were avid readers and not really into gaming etc. No phones until they were at high school, James had an ipod thing but even that was closely monitored by us. Both were taught about the obvious dangers of the www. I remember looking thorough Jamess search history and he'd been searching for boobs. He was about 12 at the time and was mortified when I spoke to him about it lol. If it was up to me I'd also restrict under 16s and think it's a cesspit for bullying, at least when I went to school the bullying stopped at 3pm.

Wait until you try prising the sounder apart on a ladder....

Have a look on youtube how to defeat diy stuff for starters Cheap is never really cheerful

OP please bear in mind few actual professionals agree with what this poster writes

direct account, you deal with the manufacturer rather than a wholesaler. Probably as ADI had little interesting in flogging it when they've shifting a boat load of other tat already ? You also loose your "exclusive" when ADI do decided to distribute it...

don't buy her any xmas of birthday pressies util she's paid my invoice ?

yes you could, however lets say £100 per yr ? let say the visit costs £50, 1 man 1 hour of travelling & on site time , 30mins of admin time, including a vehicle NI pension & all that stuff that's less than £1 a week to provide a 365 day 24hr service, with out maintenance in place you'll be unlikely to find anyone who'll want to repair an alarm at short notice or out of hours you may find that having the alarm maintained is a requirement of dad's contents insurance, I'd advise checking the policy before making changes however if you don't want it don't have it, well your dad will have to inform the provider in writing ...

If the alarm is in good working order, having the power off a few hours wouldn't cause any issues. It's a common misconception that alarms sound if the mains goes off but that is actually a sign they are unmaintained and faulty. PA would likely activate if connected, so you would need the code before you can silence it. I assume any monitoring would be cancelled at this point but worth checking that too.

reading between the lines ? @al-yeti is implying its a piece of shit which belongs in a skip, you cheap skate....

Sorry don't get excited, I don't recall working on one either, but just a word of caution I suppose. You have to consider it's a life safety system, its one thing fumbling though programming on intruder worst case in most instances if something was wrong would be a fail to operate and possibly damage or stolen items, not advised but it's not life. It depends on if you are just providing operational checks or if your expected to repair faults and re-commissioning, you would only need Level 2 access for the former. I know you didn't put yourself in this position when sales want to takeover any old tat but it is worth mentioning to them it's kit that none of the engineers know how to use properly, if something needs adjusting. Your right not everyone knows everything about every piece of kit but this is why companies have a list of preferred kit, try to stick to it and train there engineers on it. Leaves less to go wrong.

Pick up the phone & call xyz alarms they'll repair it & place it on maintenance contract, oddly the maintained alarms give much less problems than unmaintained alarms ? or lob a battery at it & wing it.....

Thanks for letting me know, but any way I wasn't looking for any answer here. Not sure if it's ok to reply to posts with unrelated messages but I will slow my self this time. I'm just very new in this forum and still trying to catch up with the local culture.

I'm growing to like the sound of a master blaster in an empty warehouse...

We are in Storrington West sussex but we are not the cheapest company, (we are not the most expensive either) it depends on what you want but we only supply quality kit which we install professionally. Not that we will be available for any installation works for some time as our books were full before lockdown, and we have work coming in still everyday. Oops you said no sales pitches, forget what I said

helmand province?

DD please down vote me pretty please

All members are free to up or downvote

Just sharing this little resource with you, I find it very helpful (Scroll Down) http://www.intercomsrus.com/intercom_handset_finder_tool.htm

I didn't say I had £2k in my wallet I just said it would fit, as opposed to your idea of £2k filling a suitcase which it wouldnt (unless it was a very small suitcase) Your the only numb nut round here that's compensating for the lack of something.

I note you don't collect vintage hoovers...

I would take the view if you have the means to buy a property which is big enough to have power supplies & zone expanders, you should have budgeted for an alarm man. Reaching for my big book of stereotypes... your from the Clan McSkinflint As a guess I would assume the Keypad in not communicating with the controls, Personally I would start by removing a keypad off the wall, connecting it direct to the controls via short bit of wire with nothing else power up or connected to the panels data network & see if you can get control of the panel, then add device one at a time until everything is back on Just remember the alarm may well have been faulty before the property was void.... good luck

I am still getting plenty of people applying for trade without posting, I am unable to put you as trade if you have not made at least five posts, the system will not let me so post if you want trade access. If you cant follow these simple instructions then try facebook there is a security forum on there that seems to be full of plums that cant read.

Mess of wiring, tape covering joints, 10 zones on 8 zone panel and seems to have no tampers. Burn marks around R69, D1, D3 and D13 indicate the panels PSU has probably been overloaded and the components will be tired. If it was a decent system in good order it would be worth looking after, but I'd rip it out myself TBH.

Across the street for attention, down the road for results.

So not just changing batteries then?

Make sure you keep an eye out for software updates as they are rolled out for all platforms. https://www.armis.com/blueborne/

Here's the issue

Ahh that one, the dimsum jingaling loveyoulongtimex22 model? good image? many failures?

CCTV provides a false sense of security to a lot of people, the market is flooded with rubbish due to this. I wouldn't bother with CCTV from what you have said. If you consider how it would benefit your security and you'll find it probably won't. Are you going to stay up every night and watch the CCTV to react to them jimmying the patio doors? Are you likely to be able to use the CCTV to identify any crims after the event? Probably not. If you buy a professionally fitted alarm system you should expect to pay a one off fee for installation and a maintenance fee yearly. This is the same as your Yale will have only a bit dearer, because it's a more secure system.

More people want sky than an alarm,more people will pay 100 a month for sky and moan at 100 a year for an alarm etc etc

nah, like alarms I'll be working too close to c#nts everyday

I'd assume the keypads need enabling in engineering ? What mind bending drugs in qty to stun a horse did you take before making the bright idea to purchase a prosys ?

a paid adverts Texecom approved/ registered means fuck all, I could get my goldfish signed up... we'd be above £60 for for visit, TBH most of the site is petty piss taking ? Buy metal cased premier, 7ah is okay depending how much kit is powered of it

I do think its a bit unfair to get an installer from gumtree then assume pro installers are the same