PeterJames

So you are saying that because the people who currently decide the rules, do not understand your industry. But you cannot give an example of what exactly they are doing wrong?

Whats your point? I already said there had to be rules, I asked if you think it would be happier if the rules came from someone you voted for?

Remember its bad luck for me to see it before the wedding

If it were forced upon us from someone you voted for you would be happier??

I knew that, but why did the BS version need it was what I meant

There is never ever going to be a perfect solution 4737 was far from perfect. There has to be rules otherwise you have anarchy and everyone just installs what they feel like and how they feel like doing it. I could never understand why we had to have stand by power for so long in the new EU standards, but then we had Seeboard doing essential works over a weekend on a industrial estate up the road and every burglar alarm was going off by early Sunday morning apart from the ones we installed. There is never going to be a perfect standard that looks out for every problem you may come across, because you cannot account for everything that may or may not happen.

Sorry, none of us install Gardtec panels so we dont know how to change it. But to be helpful if you replace the battery every four years you wont need to change the timer, assuming that you buy a branded battery from a reputable dealer that rotates his stock regularly and not one thats been sitting on a shelf for three and a half years

Have you tried changing the battery?

But why do you think these points are wrong? Code using 6 digits is more secure than 4, I think that a Pace is less secure but on the other hand the false call being passed to Police simply because someone forgot their code was equally a problem. So lets look at the door contact problem, there are several different types that suit many different doors there are graded flush and graded surface, the only ones I see that are a problem are the grade 3 sites they are a pita but is G3 there for higher security or because the EU are insisting on it?

What is wrong exactly with the standards we have?

Depends on how you look at it, I have a 2008 transporter we purchased six years ago for £18k. At 129k miles the engine has gone we have spend at least £3k on it over the last couple of years with stuff failing plus servicing of £500 per year so total cost £24k divided by 6 =£4k pa we have just purchased a three year old Traffic for £5k if it lasts two years it will be better value for money. I have had a quote for engine rebuild at £4k I can buy a similar example for £6k on autotrader so do I spend £4k so I can sell it for £2k or do I try and sell it as is? Or do I just scrap it? My plumber has a transporter, it spends more time in the garage than it does on the road

Well I wont be buying any more VW's

So what is wrong with the standards we have exactly?

Just watched the local news people chose to use the cheapest car parking service they could find, only to find that their car had been parked in a muddy field with the key left in the ignition. They co apparently lost some of the cars, cant think how. I suppose to some people saving money is more important than value for money, I love saving money myself, but I do my homework not just choose the cheapest.

I have to admit the same thought went through my mind, along with its a good job that banks dont use them

You need to show a pic of how its wired into the panel along with the new bell, the old bell wiring is irrelevant

Not 940nm though Stu

It already was BS thats why its called BS EN 50131

LOL!

0 is the escape button it will take you out of engineering you may need to press it twice

Ive just realised that was the wrong manual you need this one http://www.rglsecurity.co.uk/usermanuals/Gardtec 370 - 581 - 582 User Manual.pdf

Try pressing the 0 button, before you do do you know the user code?

He works in Birmingham. He lives in a different county altogether

http://www.rglsecurity.co.uk/usermanuals/Gardtec 350 User Guide.pdf

Cats are a little worse than dogs as they can climb up on stuff, Bosch Blueline Dual Tech are the best dont point them anywhere where te animal can get within 6ft of the detector and read the instructions. I havent done any intruder engineering for years now, so I wouldnt really be able to assist with the codes I would be okay if it was a later panel but not the older ones. You have the user manual though so it should be straight forward enough if you follow the instructions