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Plug and play are likely to be more vulnerable than port forwarded machines.

See post 31, I would have agreed with you on this Rich, its not about hiding it from the public, its about giving spotty nerdy kids ideas. The point is there are plenty of highly skilled people out there extracting money from peoples bank accounts right now by simply sending them an email with an attachment. But not everyone is daft enough to open an email attachment from someone they have never heard of. Its only a matter of time before the highly skilled suss that you can get on a network via a DVR. I am not that particularly skilled but I bet I could do it (Not that I ever would )

Lets look at the facts here potentially a system that we have sold and installed could allow some clever nerdy spotty oik in his bedroom to hack into our customers bank account and withdraw money un noticed, with no chance of anyone finding out it was him? I think this is unlikely but not impossible. Some clever hacker could possibly do it though, the risk of getting caught is high but so is the potential reward. I think there is a duty of care, potentially a cheap DVR not set up properly is like a trojan horse. The problem as I see it is that Andy has pointed out this fact to us, by rights we should be in the very least informing customers of the potential threat, and advising that they should put there CCTV system on its own VPN. Those of us that fit CCTV thats not already on a VPN.

ADT isnt swearing, and they dont have the monopoly on rental lease purchase agreements, its how most people buy their mobile phones so why should they not buy security that way?

I get 100s of emails every week from scammers trying to get me to open attachments so that they can sneak onto my network, it wont be long until they sus there is an easier way to get peoples networks. Mind you they cant log into my bank without a pin sentry my card and pin number, they cant log into my inland revenue account without giving a stool and blood sample (they are welcome to pay my tax return anyway) they cant get any sensitive information from my computer because I just do nerdy stuff with it. They could download my movies from my home server, I think they would get board looking round my world though

Not even if its on a vpn or vlan?

They were okay in their time but technology has moved on a few miles and it must be 20 years since they stopped making them

People applying for Trade please read the bloody rules here http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/forum-trade-access.html I regularly get applications from chancers that are obviously not trade along with genuine applicants that look like chancers because have not complied to the rules. I also need to know what name you have registered as I am not a bloody mind reader!

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Is it for you ? I have one in your size you can have for £50 only been used once I get that too the more it happens the more I hold back on the pay rises

The problem is for £400 you will not get very good kit, and poor kit normally goes wrong. This means as said before you will be returning all the time trying to fix stuff you supplied under warranty. You obviously are not making any profit on the kit itself, so get him to buy the kit and you fit it, that way if the kit goes wrong you can harge him to come and take the bit down so he can take it back to the supplier and change it, then you can charge him for refitting it. If you supply the kit and sell it for the same price you paid for it all you are doing is making yourself busy for no money. Either that or you wont return his calls when it goes wrong and he wont b recommending you to anyone. Personally I would walk away his budget is not enough to achieve a reasonable system. Cheap CCTV is like filling your car up with water instead of petrol, it gives the impression that you have a full tank, until you try driving somewhere. Where are you? Everyone I know is busier than a Asian kiddy in a Nike factory

Id rather eat worms than install a swan system ........just saying

He started it!

Yes

If you leave the battery in the freezer overnight it should last about six months!

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Buy a dummy box and a flashing led, a real bellbox will draw far to much current the battery wont last

do you fancy a move?

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Hi and welcome Please read the rules before posting this is not a free advertise you job site, its a forum

Hi Rob dont worry your application is being processed some applications are easier than others depending on the evidence provided and who we can contact to check you are who you say you are

Unfortunately, and remember to replace the battery every 4 years to prevent re-occurrence. Ideally do a load test every year because the battery could fail before the manufacturers recommended life expectancy, as it depends on how many power cuts and spikes you have

If the battery was connected to the control panel it would be drawing more current than the system is designed to supply, cooking the charging circuit. The system is designed to be powered from the battery and the PSU is constantly charging the battery.