PeterJames

It may sound like we are taking the pee, however, when you do something for a living and take pride in what you do, its a little annoying when a company comes along and does a half arsed job and then charges twices much as you would for doing it properly

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No tools are left in this forum over night

Are you sure I am sure that newbies have with one post have changed their profile pic?

Hi welcome to the forums. Please do not post defaulting information in the public forums thanks

You should be allowed? Its edit cover photo I believe

Hi and welcome, Excuse all the p taking, its what we call banter

Ball bearing on a doodaa

Hi probably better you ask daft questions because I dont understand your sensible question

No just slighly pissed, I got a case of Bishops finger for fathers day

Yeah well when yor age your age you stop noticing lots of things

Probably went bang shorty after posting in 2006

Get two more quotes, and go with who you feel most comfortable with, you can search using your postcode at https://www.nsi.org.uk/directory/#topform and https://ssaib.org You could use a non approved company, however, I would suggest you only use a co that has been recommended by someone you know and trust. With an approved co you have a body to go to if it all goes wrong

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Hi welcome to the forum, Ive merged your topics, there is no need to open a new topic for two questions. Question 1 cut the 12v pos and dont worry if you short any of the others. Question 2 The keypad can be removed from the wall with the cable still attached, if its likely to get wet put it in a plastic bag and seal it. If your alarm is under a service contract you may invalidate your contract by carrying out these works yourself

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ESG in birmingham had a whole control room full of them not being used, it may be worth giving them a call

I heard that Pyronix were free, but are now looking at charging. Risco are not using their own cloud either, so they are actually paying a third party. The only way they can charge is by charging the installer, with the hundreds of thousands of connections they have its too difficult for them to manage the connections so the installer needs to do that. Then to invoice the individual customer would also be quite tricky, cutting the wrong people off ect. HKC have over 400,000 connections now, they are on their own approved cloud (so are able to grade the monitoring), and they have charged since day one. IMO the HKC app is the better looking of the apps, it works better with the CCTV than the Risco one too. I like the Risco one but it was very unreliable at first, and the panels are just not as good as they used to be.

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Risco have started charging for the cloud, and they can only charge their customers (the installer) Which means if you want to continue to use your app you have to pay your installer for it. To be fair nearly everyone else was charging for this service already, clouds cost money to build and run, so giving it away for free for as long as they did must have cost Risco a fortune.

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LOL! I might use that one

Since my kids tried to buy a Lenard Nimmoy album via alexa I have had it set to no purchase. Most of what they showed was down to weak passwords on wifi, I was hoping to see something a bit clever, rather than an old boys ebay cameras being streamed. What I didnt get was why do you need your baby monitor to be internet connected? The whole point is so you can keep an eye and pop in if the kid needs you, you cant do that when your miles away, I guess you can keep an eye on the babysitter while you're down the pub, not sure I would use a babysitter I couldnt trust personally.

Yes very interesting