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As you can see Part B of building regs asks for grade B but from an out dated document. It should be BS 5839-6:2013 BS 5839-6:2013 supersedes BS 5839-6:2004, which is withdrawn.

They both should be working to BS 5839-6

Hi Michael Your house requires a system designed and installed to Grade A LD2 which is a full fire alarm system. Your electricians are right not to get involved in something that will not conform to building regulations. You should have been made aware of this at the design stage along with costs.

Premier Elite ComIP and Wintex.

And Richard can we have push notification of when a system is not poling please.

You will not be saying that if they save your life one day!!

Good to go for a Grade D

Thats not to say it cant be done. Just out of interest what sounders would you use? and how?

bs 5839-6-2013 6.2 FP on the EOL detectors is a bit pointless I would rather it be on the sounders !

Sounders are the biggest problem after the 72h standby. Also all detection and sounder circuits need to be monitored.

No a digi on a PSTN line Panel --> digi --> tel line --> ARC --> key holder Cut the tel line when customer out/away ARC and therefore key holder have no idea of what's going on.

Im not sure we are taking about the same thing/problem

To your mobile app ? Only locally will it report failure.

You get that with a standard PSTN device as well as any wifi coms. No it currently will not send you a push notification of polling problems like most of the other brands out there (I will email them to see if it can be added), unless you have the ARC GSM module and then your are monitored anyhow.

Well you would if you were using the system correctly (setting/Unsetting notifications switched on) as you would not have received and notifications when using the system, but yes they need a push notification for polling failure which i think could/should be done.

It's changed what ever communication device you use.. I would also recommend the Pyronix, I have fitted a few home control and they all work well. It will not integrate with Nest and it's automation powers are very limited (basic on/off of relays).

Euro 46 has 10 zones out the box, 8 onboard and 2 on keypad.

Sorry forgot you can't use wifi with App46 yet (officially) you need lan or the gprs card.

Fantastic panels & probably the best looking keypad, I'm fitting another tomorrow morning. if your budget can stretch go for the Euro App 46 and then add the wifi card to use your smartphone to control it (I take it your only fitting a bells only). If your going to use there PIR detectors (wired) then switch off the blue led as they are to bright for domestic.

A Galaxy G2 is ten times easier to program than a Tex prem 24! go with a Pyronix euro mini/46 or the Galaxy G2 12/20. Accenta to a premier elite is a very big step.

Ahh yes the old A-Bus system in its many forms... I remember them, most had US keypads/back boxes. This was around the same time a Living control & philips pronto. You can still buy new systems.

O and the Nest smoke alarms are very good. I have also started playing with IFTTT

datadiffusion X10 ..... Really Forget using your phone/ipad to control equipment it's just cumbersome and unnatural, use them to compliment physical switches/remotes is the way I have found works the best. For controlling your everyday equipment (Tv, Sat, DVD, music) I use URC Total Control. I have used the product from launch (and aged some by doing so) but some years down the line the **** has been sorted out and it works as it should. For multi room music Sonos or Denon Heos (Sonos preferred) with Spotify. It works and works well. It integrates well with most if not all other main systems and works well on its own. For lighting Lutron or Rako. They both again work very well and integrate well with other systems as well as stand alone. For heating (well basic heating) Nest 3rd gen room stat. Its like an apple iwatch on the wall. Integrates well and works. Now for automation it depends on what you want to automate. Im moving house soon and currently working on spec for house. The brains of the house will be a Loxone server glued to all the above as well as my intruder. I have to say some of the budget stuff works quite well. I have been testing/using lightwave from launch and it works around 90% of the time, looks ok and can be controlled from other systems easily. I would say the other brands work the same. But as said most are not 2-way, so its a send and hope affair. I quite like the look of the Philips Hue lighting system and will probably put this in the kids rooms (colour changing) and integrate into system.

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Is it just me or does the Tsi web site keep going down ?