datadiffusion

No... not on this occasion. http://www.axxessid.com/ Identical to Scanny AX200 Village hall with separate front and back readers hanging off one unit. Using swipe cards, system supports prox, which they want to change to. Usual case that they won't even remotely comprehend changing it because Maureen knows how to use the management software since 1998.... Just wondering if the Scantronic AX10 was just a re-badged version of this - http://www.axxessid.com/Pguide/105-220.html

You'll not have heard of them but a funny little outfit called Axxess makes obscure (but not in a closed protocol, f-off sort of way, more like you've not heard of them) access control panels and I'm not sure if they are / were part of Cooper or not, as you could by as a Scanny or Axxess branded unit, as an AX50, 100 or 200. Anyway, does anyone familiar with the Scantronic AX10 external prox know if it will work with said systems? The fact it has an AX in the code and the scantronic instructions tell you to ignore some of the wires (buzzer, etc...) make me think they are just standard units, and it's the scanny keypad end that's been altered to suit the data, not the other way around... ta!

Remember to buy a 1000 pack of those fake duracells you used to see down the market to power these bad boys...

If you want to keep your neighbours as friends, I would call an out of hours pro now. The battery is faulty, almost certainly dead after all these years. If you find the main control box, and disable it, then it's possible the external siren will then start to sound for up to 20 minutes. Smashing it up, or disabling the keypad, will not help I'm afraid.

Ah, fair play they've reinvested the profits. Back then it was in a portacabin in the grounds of a ropey hotel nr. Portsmouth.

About 3 people have topped themselves in the same room... I believe said room (in the main block not the motel bit) has been renumbered or is unused now...

Did they not tell you about Unlucky Room 7? We did 2 CCTV courses there, TBH the 1st weeks training was good although the portacabin smelled of sewage. The second weeks training which was the 'advanced' course, they fobbed us off with a course folder that had 'Part 2 - Advanced' on the cover but the contents were a reprint of part 1, by their own admission, and they stated it 'would follow'. It didn't. Which probably explains the above-average number of suicides...

is it still in the portacabin outside the ropey hotel?

Perhaps Paxton 'Univeral' was sold via Advanced Access as 'own brand' for much better pricing than Paxton 'ordinaire'. I use these regularly on an 'all wired' job. Much better margin on fobs too that way. Always turn up with Paxton Universal part nos and manual inside the box.

Yeah the pics were incredible - I guess the building was just a preserved facia on a concrete shell because the FB were happy walking around on the 'floor' with half the roof burnt off... Corridors were nothing left and open to the sky, but cables in stainless baskets, mostly cables burnt to nothing by the looks!

Yeah 'go back to stores for parts' and pass it on to someone else!

I guess you must have seen the Colston fire pics Adrian? Good to see all the cable in wire baskets tbh, but how the hell the fire got out of control like that I can't imagine...

Why would it be? How could it be? If the devices can both transmit and recieve from the control pan3l, its a 2 way system. The detail of polling rates etc... is important, but not really needed to say 'yes' or 'no'.

To be honest the question was rather ambiguous and a bit nonsense. What system was he referring to and what 'proof' was he even seeking?

Yes eline far more conventional physical design, didn't realise not Siemens in-house design, who did they buy then? Yes get over it.

They were German...

True but £'high double figures' for a PIR on those, relatively expensive. Agred its always rejection vs sensitivity. Black mirror setup stopped most fa's.

It's in the spec, states the IR120 will learn heating patterns during the first 14 days of operation. There is no need of an RTC for relative timekeeping.

It's one of the mitigating things you can do, yes. Models such as the Alarmcom/Siemens IR120 and I assume the Siemens/Vanderbilt e-Line have long claimed to learn and ignore central heating times.

...it would be none?

There are a few 'menvier only' quirks...

On Menvier yes, not on ion re zone follow which is stupid.... 2 way is essential for wireless imo.

Hope so as 2 way wireless (which, AFAIK, the iOn 40 panels onwards already could support - iOn 16 isn't field upgradable) is long, long overdue. That and FAR more programmable options for zones such as cause + effect, links gal style etc... The iOn is a decent, stable platform, just a bit lacking in features, so hope they don't try and reinvent that.

Or the 9751 for that matter!