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LOL! It was the only one on Google, sorry. Mine is all the way under my bed too, so it wouldn't be worth me getting it out. They all look like the Ventcroft ones, In My Opinion. Either way, they're all good, Ventcroft products are excellent.
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Both of those bell modules are definitely Ventcroft, look identical
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And so I stand corrected! strange that. Were they always made by Pyronix? I could swear I saw one on eBay, which had Ventcroft guts in it, with the piezo cover saying 'VENTCROFT' either way, it's a bell box and it does a job. Were the Castle Care Tech ones made by Ventcroft? The insides of them also look very similar to Ventcroft.
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I like those Chubb boxes. We've just had a dip in the power, and every alarm on my street, but the one of my house has gone off. Most are the older CQR style with a siren in them, all making the same sound, They all desperately need batteries in them! I like those Banham boxes, especially the black ones, with the golden logo on, very good looking. I think they are actually Ventcroft, though. What a shame. I guess sit is better changing your bell box than going bust.
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I see. Just the compatibility of alarms. It is good in a way that they are all standard and that they all work together. I personally find that wireless alarms are unreliable, and just get forgotten about, so they no longer work, especially the bell boxes. The solar powered ones aren't ideal either, since they never actually get placed in the sun, and people don't change the SLA batteries in them, either. That is a good choice, a local company, AWM here use the Quartz, with an orange strobe. It is good to have a bell box from the 'standard' ones you see installed, like the horrible AG6 and Kinetic AZ-TEC boxes. I see. It must be very exclusive to have a bell made for your company, like ADT do. If I ever had a company, I would want my own bell, something that no one else has, just so it stands out from the crowd. I like those Aritech boxes. I wonder why they aren't sold to anyone else in the UK, I'd quite like one, just for the sake of having one. I hope Chubb still install those blue triangles, they look really good, especially the newer ones. That is a real shame, why did they change, do you know? They looked so nice, lit up blue and red with a shiny chrome body! It indeed is a very bland world, shame really, even making your own bell box, you could add a personal touch to the thing, something which can't be done now.
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I guess it is better to have it done, but I just like the idea of knowing what you are doing could potentially save your house, and possessions. I may get one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alarm-Bell-Boxes-Sounders-Yellow-/252434247026?hash=item3ac640ed72:g:8yoAAMXQxU9SCiA2 Do they look authentic 80s/90s boxes?
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I see. I quite like the Rapier, good looking bell box, I'd have one on my home, however, I'm not a rich posho I would actually find it fun to build one, using dummy housings, and my DIY SAB bell modules, that would be a fun thing to do. Elmdene make the best bell boxes, I'm guessing..
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Wow, there is me thinking they were good for some reason. I thought that they were, because they cost twice the price of a Reson8 bell box. For £10 less than this bell box, you could have a Ventcroft Compact Classic, much better value, and smaller. As professionals, what bell boxes do you like the most, and install? I think for me it is the Novagard, with its comfort LEDs brighter than the strobe.
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Not very good, especially if it has a thatched roof! I think the Sonade had potential, if they just hid the circuitry inside of a plastic box, inside the bell box. What's worse is they haven't learned from their mistakes, as the Reson8 is just like the Sonade inside, nothing protecting the circuitry, but a conformal coating on the board. Do you have any clue where I could get an SAB bell module? I always thought they were good bell boxes. They are very load, and have a good quality Ni-Cad battery on board, as I hear every time there is a power cut, it can easily go for 45 minutes, none stop!
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Yep, here are the instructions for it Did the older ones catch fire?
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I guess not, although the Accenta 8 was good. The Sonades on the other had aren't so good, I have a few in my collection, I bet they were very cheap bell boxes, like the majority of ADEs equipment
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I wonder how many still brand new old CQR bell boxes are around, in stock rooms, and garages. My Granddad was a security engineer for Northern Electric, installing alarm in substations, in his garage he still has about 23 or so Sonade 2000 bell boxes, and lots of Accenta 8s. Weren't the Polyprop ones the ones which warped and lost their colour? £$ is a bargain, I'd but many coveres, and 3D print back plates Sounds fun, my first bell box was a Ventcroft Compact, very nice little bell box, seems to be the loudest bell box I have, or maybe that is just the horrible alarm tone it has. I would like a few bell modules, I bet they are very hard to find these days.
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I see. Well, I guess I'll just have to use the bulging, grey cover that I have now. Just thought I could give it a new lease of life. How much roughly did a CQR bell box housing cost? Could you get them pre-built too? Or were they all in separate bits? I like the Prima, nice bell box.
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MrHappy I guess so, thanks for the replies. I was just curious, since I quite like them. Has anyone taken one down recently? I have just got a brand new Castle Care Tech SAB module, and Lynteck siren with the hopes of being able to build one, like was done back in the 80s/90s. datadiffusion Those little Micromark kits are funny, but they aren't full sized, the boxes are surprisingly small
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Has anyone recently removed a CQR style bell box, or just the cover? I was just curious, because I have a CQR box with 4 vents either side of the box, however, it is the polypropylene version that turns grey, flaky and is bulging at the sides. Looks a bit like this: https://burglaralarmbritain.wordpress.com/2016/02/27/intruder-alarm-wells-2015/ If anyone has a cover which is still in good shape and doesn't mind parting with it, could you send me it? I'd pay for postage... of course. I have the back plate, just not a nice cover. It could be any colour, I don't mind, and after all, beggers cannot be choosers! Preferably one of the polycarbonate ones, like ths: https://burglaralarmbritain.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/fairfield-security-systems-cardiff-2012-2/ Thanks in advance
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Got it working!! Thanks for the great advice, I seem to have got it working, it is an engineer test feature only available at power up, it now sounds for longer than 4 seconds, so I am happy! Very good bell box, I recommend a Novagard alarm bell box, very well built, and amazing waterproofing, with rally bright comfort LEDs.
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Well, I thought it would be some sort of test timer, but tat is for four seconds, and if there is, there is no obvious way of turning it off, into 'real' mode. How would I meter the trigger?
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Hi, yeah, I have read instructions, and they don't mention anything about it only going off for 2 seconds before stopping. I have tested both returns tamper, and sounder trigger; all seems to be fine. Anyone else had this problem?
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Hi, I need help wiring a Novagard 2 bell box to an ADE Accenta G3 alarm panel. The sounder only goes for two seconds on power up, before stopping. The LEDs flash normally, however, there is a constant tamper on the panel too, is this some sort of test mode that the bell box is in? Am I missing something? I am guessing it isn't meant to do this. If it is a test mode, how do I get out of it? I tried powering it up just with the hold off connected to a 12v power supply, and the same thing happened, so it isn't the panel. I also tried using the negative trigger, on the 12v power supply, and the exact same thin happened. I hope I don't sound too dumb for asking this, if it is a really obvious fix! Any help is much appreciated, thanks! Gabriel
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Haha, I don't know
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My 100thPost! Haha, on this voting page haha
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Okay, I know, this will be my 99th post, I often come to this forum to read about alarms, and maybe learn a bit more, I don't post that much
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I am sorry that you find me tragic, I come to this forum with a genuine question which I needed help answering. Thanks for helping me get the alarm sorted, but if you think I'm 'Tragic' I won't post on here again
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I guess, well, thank you for all the advice, let's hope I can get it working
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Well, I have linked out the PA terminal, and the bell SAB, also made by Revdun is fine, connections to the panel are just the same as the SAB and the micro switch is fine, I'll just link everything in the panel out, I don't see what harm it can do, it is built like a rock anyway