james.wilson

i doubt it, is this another one of your bin things you keep on the wall?

this will work for a few months but the battery isnt dead just the timer has shut it off. What it will do when it does start to go flat is anyone guess

wow that bad. I dont think any pro installer will use it yet, but was surprised how ajax did with a self cert. I think any equipment sold to not meet the requirement it claims should be removed and all certificates and insurance revoked

does it comply to en as ajax doesnt

agreed

No the hardware may belong to client. The programming does not. I can only speak for myself but unlocking is free at the office or done on site for a visit cost. Noone Imo should lock the programming without a free unlock option. Ewaste is an issue I'd agree

Ive been looking at crm systems I wondered if there would be any interest for a TSI crm system using suite crm?

agreed but as norman check with your insurer the outgoing co still carries liability. some panel log what programming is changed also.

IMO anyone you doesnt program lock (engineer lock isnt the right word)their config will have an issue and so will their insurer. However the programming is the IP of the programmer. The equipment etc belongs to whoever purchased it

re manufacture yes that is why they have defaults. Its the same on intruder and fire, set defaults. If you 6wb program something unfortunately you are liable for it. You may have done it right at the time, maybe 12 years ago, but if anyone inherits your programming thats what they did. Your programming, your issue. Its the way it is today.

Keep a look on what you actually insured for or Do it properly, default the system fully and take it on.

If you did the last programming then the person yes person not co that did that is the one. One would assume no support contract or expired you cant be liable You need to 'prove' it. If you last 'programmed' it your liable. If new co didnt change the 'programming' then whoever last did carries the liability. Bear in mind its not the client you will have an issue with its the insurer. The client wont care because everyone is insured to include this. Unless you reset just the codes and left the old maintainer with all the liability

Its a shame but the original programmer/co keeps the liability. Its something I want to change because it should be the incoming co/person. Unfortunately it isnt. Panels that allow code defaults are a liability. However i know how it looks but check your policy because you arnt fully insured they chase the one that is. If thats you oops

no but it all helps

When doing a take over the panel should always be fully defaulted.

im sorry for your health issues but feel it needs saying that 2009 isnt fairly new, fairly new would be 2018

i thought made in china was an issue ie hik, dahua huawei etc?

well that a huge plus genuine well done

agreed. Maybe the OP could post a pic of the offending PA?

If the PA isnt pressed (I assume you have checked the window etc) You could consider pressing it and silencing that

Fyi I started writing a huge opinion piece Deleted it

That's definetly a scanny label

Isn't that the ill fated menvier one?

Do orisec know you undo their whole trade and direct only? I don't think they class themselves as amazon.

I try to be