ElecTech

Your right, but the world needs the low end **** kit markets to some degree. If everyone installed "quality" kit that was all to the same standard and everything was rounded and perfect. What would distinguish the good from the bad? Nothing. I for one am glad in some ways there are mickey mouse kits out there. It separates the kind of installer that you are & level of service/products you can provide.

If you want to have good product, you have to pay the good price.

When you say 'panic door' are we talking an emergency fire exit?

Some panic bars have a relay running through them to cut the power off...

Volt drop will matter as I'll be running the power through the relay 200m away? Power will run from the "panel" through the relay 200m away then back to the LED which is located on the panel... so round trip of 400m... I'm just wondering if there's a better solution. Current is 20mA.. LED is the type is fitted on industrial switch panels?? if that makes sense.

Shutter is on a internal section going into a segregated part of the building so no use in this instant. Door is not alarmed.

I am attempting to indicate a roller shutter has been left open with an LED indicator located at a drivers desk (point A)... the roller shutter is at point B with a lever that when bolted across a relay operates to N.O. Distance from point A to point B is 200m. What's my best way of doing it i.e. voltages and size of cables.... I was thinking of sending a +24VAC down one core from a panel that were having made, running through the relay to connect directly back to the LED indicator. and have 0v connected straight from panel to indicator....

Either - need to see the capabilities of both really...

It's at design stage - were going to look at some brands to see the capabilities and then apply as necessary.

Any recommendations on some good commercial lone working kit... This is on the lines of mass role out and perhaps integrated to a central monitoring point?

Not as tragic as this...

another pole perhaps??

Site name could be used for remote access purposes to label the system? Not sure to be honest but that would be my guess - maybe a label for the APP to pick up on?

Agreed but in a less overjoyed way )

Something like that lol

Electronic security and networking as a general are like oil and water at the moment in my opinion...

You could still notify customers without broadcasting to the public. Even if all my customers were 100% secure, I'd still feel uneasy about such topic discussed in a public security forum. The customers that don't get notified are still vulnerable and there'll be many out there that won't. However unlikely it is to happen, it's still possible someone can gain criminal value from this topic. And that's not right no matter how you look at it.

I'm merely making the point that the site now shows back doors to any CCTV system in the public arena, if that's what EVERYONE agrees with then fantastic but I don't agree with it and that's my opinion. And that's what a forum is all about... opinions... It's hardly off topic debating if "the topic" is sensitive or not. Do we start a thread "the below thread - sensitive or not" not sure? No but your system will be ran through the mud and how funny if they got the info to do it from your own site... And it's not just the £300 brigade as mentioned above... The "expensive" DVRs can carry the same issue.

On a serious, what if an unauthorised person access's one of your DVR's that you maintain from reading this? Your responsible and you wouldn't want it to happen, so at least limit the viewing numbers... It would just be like accessing an alarm with the engineer code... no? Pissing in the wind comes to mind right about now....

LOL riiiiiight.... Thanks for the clarification guys

That's it then, just leave it for the next 10,000 to read... My point is, this site in particular is full of security professional's who when it suits act all hush hush about engineering codes etc, yet leave this in public view.... Daft... But anyway enough of that... Seems an IT networking guru will need to be on hand to be truly safe?

This surely runs in line with the industry, faults, problems, and business ideas... And has massive reason to not be in public domain... If engineer codes are so readily available elsewhere like you said, why do we protect such info? Yet keep a topic like this on public, same vulnerabilities, same damage could be caused getting into the wrong hands. Do people see engineer codes as a cash cow if kept secret? And before anyone says, I know money isnt made directly from this site by engineer resets, but industry wise it is... Serious question...

wow...... and the trade RESTRICTED forum is for what exactly? Private boys club? I know it's your view and I respect them but your views matter..... You have 8k+ posts.... Your obviously b*lls deep in the site so your view will carry weight!

I really don't understand how anyone could think this isn't sensitive information? Regardless where else you can get it from, we all work within the industry and have a duty of care to stop these hacks/floors become broadcasted to the public. Like I said, no problem discussing it with fellow professionals as there's clearly an issue, but not just anyone who can use google. And if its the case other sites have the same info then so be it, but at least someone's DVR didn't get hacked from TSI (a professional security installation forum)... I might have it wrong so please tell me if I do and why...

This should be in trade only in my opinion. Yeah it might be splattered all over the web but site rules don't allow default engineer codes let alone back doors to DVRs....? I agree the issue should be raised but not in public view. And anyway, from an installation point of view, what's the solution?