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Thanks for advice MrH and SWB. I quite like the idea of the multi resistor ones. Can I ask if Knight, Elmdene and CQR are all decent makes?

I've decided to buy and test a flush mounted contact to see if I can fit into the frames. Probably an Elm-6QFC(RD) and/or RFT-RD as the metered tails on the pre wired one may be too short.

Thanks SWB. Aesthetics always a consideration but security is more important. Are separates thought to be better or is it just that they are more flexible when it comes to fitting? I've attached a word doc with examples of the frames. I'm about to do the first fix on and want to ensure that any wiring is in place as neatly as possible ready for the sensors, hence I was going to buy one of the sensors so I can test fit before starting to do any permanent work. windows.docx

Hi all. Just after a little advice please. I am looking for recommendations on wired combined shock n contact sensors for all of my windows and doors. Have not yet decided on the main panel but it will likely be a texecom or Pyronix. The largest door is approx. 3.6m * 2m. It is a sliding door with 4 x 900mm panels. The 2 middle panels slide and 1 fixed panel on each side. Or should I be using separate shock and contact sensors? Suggestions appreciated.

I'm not sure if it's different for a DIY self build as opposed to commercial construction?

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My understanding is that VAT on labour should always be zero rated when working on new builds so there wouldn't be anything to claim back.

Thanks again to everyone for there help.? Based on it I have found a local installer who is happy to consult on the first fix and do the 2nd fix. His preferred panel is the Pyronix Euro 46 so I am starting to look at building the system around that. His usual jobs are installing in business premises and he also installs CCTV. I will be using wired accessories everywhere unless it is impossible to do so. after all I would hate to get on the wrong side of Greta. ? I will still be buying all of the equipment as this will keep his turnover down and as it's a new build and I can claim all of the tax back so if anyone has any supplier recommendations and if the forum rules allow then I would appreciate them. So thanks again for your help, it is very much appreciated and please feel free to message me if anyone needs any general building advice and I will do my best to help. Mark.

Thanks for everyone's replies. To answer the questions raised by them.... Wireless will only be used where it will be uneconomical or aesthetically required. Everywhere else will be first fixed with 8 core cable (using this as I have loads of it). CCTV will all be first fixed with cat 5E cable. @MrHappy I did think I would be able to power all sensors from 1 control panel as long as the control panel had enough zones? Something like the Texecom premier elite 24 + expansion card(s). Am I incorrect? @james.wilson Do you work for securitywarehouse? This was one of the sites I had shortlisted to buy the items from. @sixwheeledbeast Thanks for the detailed reply and also for the suggestion of doing the first fix and using a specialist company to advise and then doing the 2nd fix. From your comment about pets and using perimeter protection is this in place of the motion sensors and is this because pets will basically set off the alarm even if I use pet friendly motion sensors? Anyone have any preference or thoughts about using either the 360 ceiling mounted middle of the room sensors versus the usual corner sensors? Mark,

Hello all, I am a first, and last, time self builder from sunny Sunderland who is currently on his 9th year of a project. I am in the process of first fixing electrical including an intruder alarm and hence I have joined up to hopefully gain enough knowledge to enable me progress without any major mistakes. Kind regards, Mark.

Hello all, I am hoping for some general advice about choosing a decent intruder alarm in a 2 storey house that I am in the process of building. I have a basic understanding of electrics and I have done some research and I am planning to use mainly wired connections but will require at least a few wireless ones as well. Most of the research I have done so far has been on Texecom systems, mainly because that is what is fitted to my current house but I am also considering systems from Honeywell and Pyronex. If I go OTT, which is the norm for me, I will probably have dual / quad motion sensors in most if not all rooms, an internal garage and an outdoor shed, so 14 in total. I may also incorporate vibration sensors, glass breakage detectors, water leak sensors, under flooring pressure sensors, beams, panic buttons and internal sound bombs. I would also like the system to notify my mobile and at least one other mobile if it is triggered and also be capable of turning on my security lights, probably via a contactor fitted in the consumer unit. I am also planning on having a CCTV system fitted with most likely 4 to 6 cameras. Note that I do plan to keep vast amounts of anything valuable in the house but I really want to insure that it's kept as secure as possible as I have been broken into before and it's not nice. Also the system must take into consideration pets, although these may be outdoors or kept in a specific area of the house when the alarm is armed. As I will be doing all the cabling and fitting work then the additional cost of extra sensors is pretty much limited to the cost of the sensor. I have attached the blank floor plans just in case it helps. Some of the questions I have are:- What are peoples opinion on the types of sensors I have listed? Which are overkill, redundant, recommended etc? Is there any point in fitting door contacts if I have motion sensors in all of the rooms? Are the 360 motion sensors any better than the corner 180/270 motion sensors? I have 6 sliding / patio doors that are either ground floor or accessible via the balcony, is it worth having vibration sensors on all of them and if so do you need to have one per pain of glass? Is it worth having glass break noise sensors? Should I be looking at using a single system for the CCTV and intruder alarm or are these best kept as totally separate systems? Based on value and technical support which suppliers of equipment would people recommend? I am planning on having a keypad on the upstairs landing to allow partial sets and should I have a keypad at all possible entry points (another 5 keypads) or just the main ones? Are there any products that verbally warn potential burglars on approach that they are being watched and that the house is fully alarmed and monitored etc? Plus any general comments, ideally helpful ;), about anything I have said would be most welcome. And sorry for anything dumb and/or obvious that I have undoubtedly written. Regards, Mark. BASIC FLOORPLANS.docx