hastings Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 Is that an outward opening door?If so its against NSI standards, correct me if im wrong? I thought we were talking about sliding doors ? The unit was'nt properly sealed then and would have misted up anyway - cable or no cable. You've been done from behind there mate. I know, but according to their warranty conditions, we (I) voided it ! PS Rich, belated thanks is in order for help with the missus. :
hastings Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 You must mean the other Rich, unless you were at that party ..... with the car keys Could easily have been that party, or the other rich !
arfur mo Posted April 20, 2006 Posted April 20, 2006 I got properly bollocked by my install manager once for running a cable inside the frame like that, I'm not saying you lot are wrong but I have never done it since then.Customer claimed off our firm for new patio doors cos window firm said warranty was now void. (The problem was condesation in the double glazed unit???). Looks neat to me as well tho, if you do it that way. hi hastings, i think your experience is a prime example of always 'get the clients permission 1st', i know its dificult when you only have 'x' ammount of time to complete but hopefully the sales rep on your company would now be 'genned up' for this. i had a dicussion with an Everest Glazing installation team recently, they also said it would void their warrenty due to their 'tripple cavity construction' being violated. i asked was it a vacum in the frame? no was the answere but the sections are hermaticllly sealed. i'm not a legal eagle so its just IMO, i think after drilling the holes and while installing cables, you applied silicon sealant, should it later go to a court to decide, then the glazing firm would be on thin ice, and probalbly loose as its not a vacum thats been disturbed, unless they can proove your works adversly affected the performance of their product in such a way to present the fault/complaint experienced, but do you need the risk of legal hassle and cost to proove the point ?. i get the client to decide/agree with having this sort of 'invasive' work done along with the options of surface cables/mini trunking/beading, make sure both partners agree preferably in writing before you anything. same with carpets - 99 out 100 the go back fine but i have forgotten how manny times i have lifted them and found the undelay little more than powder . so always state we are not carpet fitters, in order to conceal cables carpets and may require attention from a qualified carpet fitter. regs arfur_mo If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
Guest Posted April 21, 2006 Posted April 21, 2006 I have done the same on my own upvc doors but the structure has been breached and the warranty 'probably' voided. Mine are done with concealed contact + surface magnet in groove on top of door Fixing anything with a screw to the door or frame will void the warranty (read the small print) Last plastic french doors i did where patio contacts in frame gap / groove on top of door wires through the frame soldered joint in 18 x 9 mini trunking (neat but naughty) cable management looking like part of frame to the untrained eye.
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