Vortex Bell Box

[Guest mick the builder]

Can somebody help me? I've just bought a vortex bell box to fit to my house. I just want it to act as a detterant so i wont be conecting to an alarm control panel just a low voltage feed. All I want is the strobe lights to flash constantly. I have disconnected the sounder but I dont know which conections to use for the transformer?

The terminals in the housing are as follows:- 1 return

2 stb-

3 tg-

4 hold-

5 hold+

6 bt-

7 bt+

8 bto

The rechargable battery is connected to terminals bto (red wire) and bt- ( black wire)

Thanks in advance

Mick

[Guest]

Supply terminals 4 and 5 with around 12-14VDC.

[Guest mick the builder]

Thanks for that.

Just a couple more things, both Led's flash at the same time,is it possible for them to alternate and will the rechargable battery charge and act as a back up if the power fails or does that need a control panel?

[whistle]

Thanks for that.

Just a couple more things, both Led's flash at the same time,is it possible for them to alternate and will the rechargable battery charge and act as a back up if the power fails or does that need a control panel?

What have you wired it to if you have no control panel ????

[Adi]

A tranny and i dont mean a he she.

[whistle]

Sorry did not read the 1st post 100 %

[Guest mick the builder]

Can any one answer the second post i made about the strobe lights and battery ?

[FASTCAR]

Have you got / read the installation manual for this siren , as the leds can indicate certain conditions eg. tamper open , trigger active , eng mode etc.

It may be telling you that your battery is not connected (bt0 > bt+ on install) .

Its not a good idea to have your strobe flashing constantly , it gives the impression of an alarm in need of attention or reset.

[Guest mick the builder]

Have you got / read the installation manual for this siren , as the leds can indicate certain conditions eg. tamper open , trigger active , eng mode etc.

It may be telling you that your battery is not connected (bt0 > bt+ on install) .

Its not a good idea to have your strobe flashing constantly , it gives the impression of an alarm in need of attention or reset.

I have lost the instruction leaflet for the bell box. As you can tell, I,m no alarm fitter and I meant to have the Led's flashing alternately not a strobe. All I have is the bell box with no control panel. It will get it's feed from a regular 12v lighting transformer conected through the lighting circuit. As the house is in the country i have disconected the bell and only want it to act as a detterant. It would be handy if the battery could be charged and cut in, in the event of the power being swited off, which they do often for maintenance. "Lurch" helped me get the Leds flashing but they are flashing together and I wondered if they could flash one at a time( not the end of the world if they cant)

Thanks for any response

Mick

[Guest Tim2]

I guess you've probably worked something out by now, but for other people reading this thread:

1 return : Tamper output to tell the control panel if the bell box has been tampered with

2 stb- : Strobe trigger input, typically from the control panel

3 tg- : Bell trigger input, typically from the control panel

4 hold- : Power-

5 hold+ : Power+

6 bt- : Battery-

7 bt+ : Battery+

8 bto : Battery park (not connected)

Power must be supplied to the hold connectors to charge the battery and stop the alarm from sounding (hold off). The Battery+ lead is connected to bto before the bell box is installed, this is moved to bt+ once the other connections have been made.

To get the comfort lights flashing alternately you'll need to supply power to hold+ and hold- (which you have), you'll also need to connect stb- and tg- to ground so that the bell box doesn't think its being triggered. Return isn't needed, as this is an output. The battery should then be connected to bt+.

There are a couple of other jumpers:

SCB/SAB : SAB uses the hold+/- lines to power the sounder if possible, and draws 180mA when the alarm goes off. SCB uses the internal battery when the sounder goes off, so hold+/- never exceeds 50mA.

Internal/External: Internal causes the bell box to trigger itself from the internal tamper switches. External means that the bell box is only triggered by the control panel. The control panel can still see the tamper switches on the bell box, so the bell box will still sound if it is opened, but if the control panel is completely disarmed (including tamper loop) the bell box can be opened without it going off.

Jumpers near the sounder connection are for the timeout period - 5secs, 3mins, 20mins.

When the LEDs flash together it means the alarm has gone off. They should flash once, twice or three times every 5 seconds:

Once : No power to hold+/- (i.e. cable cut)

Twice : Internal tamper switch triggered alarm

Three times : tg- input has been triggered but the control panel (this is probably what you're seeing if tg- is not connected to ground).