Guest xt600 Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Hi all....i hope someone can help me with setting up this panel. I am setting it up on the bench but it will be going in my house in Bulgaria. The instructions are poor, especially for a novice like myself. With the cpx i have one Rakonet iwise DT AM on one zone, and one Rakonet shock detector on another. The instructions on these are equally unclear but i think i may have it right concerning resistors etc. When i power up the board the sounder sounds and doesn't stop. It's asking me if i want to use BS or EN2 settings. Whats the difference and what should i choose?
Guest xt600 Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Its not really a diy panel but unfortately gardtec are only concerned with sales targets these days. You should program the zones as double pole then you wont need the resistors in the zones.Anyway, what do you reckon to Bulgaria? I may be having a trip there myself in the not to distant future. It's all double dutch to me richl.... What i could do with is a circuit diagram.....only have one pir and two shock sensors to wire in so can't be that difficult can it? And do i set up with BS or EN? They dont explain the difference so i'm clueless! Bulgaria is probably a good investment but i feel it's now getting overdeveloped at the coasts and ski resorts and supply is out weighing demand. I have a place in a village 30mins from ski resort. it needs lots of work but what do you expect for 15K? Prices rising steadily and may take off after january. Certainly worth a look around, can get return flights for
Nova-Security Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 I wonder why they sold you a "Rakonet iwise DT AM" grade 3 detector ith a Grade 2 panel. www.nova-security.co.uk www.nsiapproved.co.uk No PMs please unless i know you or you are using this board with your proper name.
Guest xt600 Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 I wonder why they sold you a "Rakonet iwise DT AM" grade 3 detector ith a Grade 2 panel. They didn't, i bought it seperately....anyway, are you going to answer my question?
morph Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Have you spoken to the supplier of the equipment about some support, if it was me buying product i would expect some help from the people i gave my money too.
Guest xt600 Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Have you spoken to the supplier of the equipment about some support, if it was me buying product i would expect some help from the people i gave my money too. The supplier refer me to the manufacturer. They emailed me a programming guide but there is no wiring guide. Rakonet who make the detectors won't allow you to download info unless you register. I registered and two days later they mailed me a password so i can download their wiring info. However, their site isn't working so i cant download the instructions! That's why i am on here, hoping for some help!
morph Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Problem you will have here is that many installers regard this panel as a professional panel and as such they wont give support to DIY users. Who did you get the panel from?
Guest xt600 Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Problem you will have here is that many installers regard this panel as a professional panel and as such they wont give support to DIY users.Who did you get the panel from? I got the panel from an online retailer. Screwfix sell this panel too. It's not really a question of support, if they gave you instructions in plain english that didn't contradict themselves then i wouldn't have a problem with it! Im a qualified electrician and as such have a basic understanding at least! I'm not familiar with some of the terminology used but it seems they make it deliberately difficult for diy installation...is this to protect the trade? If it was for my house in the uk i would get a pro in to install because i haven't the time to learn... But, i have to install myself and i chose this panel because the diy type they sell in b&q etc are **** and i need it to work with minimal false alarms!
morph Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Your missing the point, the panel is not a DIY panel, the instructions given are written for the installing engineers who have been trained in the correct installation and programming of the panel. This is why the instructions do not mean a lot to most DIY installers. I can understand that you may be a qualified electrician, but that doesn't mean you automatically mean you know how to fit every electrical panel or control that was ever made. As an electrician you will understand why many products only come with basic instructions, they are meant to be installed by competent persons, bit like buying electrical products from screwfix and B&Q, you can but the law says you shouldn't fit them unless you are competant and in the case of a Home part P compliant. One of the guys has already suggested that you use the the Bs method on start up, that is the best option for your circumstances.
Guest xt600 Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 Your missing the point, the panel is not a DIY panel, the instructions given are written for the installing engineers who have been trained in the correct installation and programming of the panel. This is why the instructions do not mean a lot to most DIY installers.I can understand that you may be a qualified electrician, but that doesn't mean you automatically mean you know how to fit every electrical panel or control that was ever made. As an electrician you will understand why many products only come with basic instructions, they are meant to be installed by competent persons, bit like buying electrical products from screwfix and B&Q, you can but the law says you shouldn't fit them unless you are competant and in the case of a Home part P compliant. One of the guys has already suggested that you use the the Bs method on start up, that is the best option for your circumstances. No one has suggested using the BS method have they?? I'm not saying that as an electrician i will know how to fit anything....and i often have to refer to instrucions when fitting some electrical gear. All i'm saying here is...there are four wires or sometimes six to connect....how can it be that difficult for instrucions to tell you where to fit them! The programming seems fairly self explanetry, but i have to get the hardware connected correctly first.... So, BS is best for me then?
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