bugsley999 Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Hi all I'm looking to install a fairly standard system BUT would like to have a facility where at night, one zone arms automatically to monitor beam sensors around the property. If the zone is triggered, I'd like it to signal (chime) on a keypad (or some device) in the bedroom, rather than triggering an alarm and, after a couple of minutes, trigger a relay I can use to switch on security lighting. Can anyone recommend a panel I can use that will provide this simple feature? Thanks Bugsley
magpye Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Any panel you like, plus power supply, beam/s, timer relay boards, buzzer/sounder etc, relay/contactor for lights and most important of all, the knowledge of how to do it, and of course an electrician to do the mains electrical work, good luck. Someone told me I was ignorant and apathetic, I don't know what that means, nor do I care.
mjw Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Hi allI'm looking to install a fairly standard system BUT would like to have a facility where at night, one zone arms automatically to monitor beam sensors around the property. If the zone is triggered, I'd like it to signal (chime) on a keypad (or some device) in the bedroom, rather than triggering an alarm and, after a couple of minutes, trigger a relay I can use to switch on security lighting. Can anyone recommend a panel I can use that will provide this simple feature? Thanks Bugsley Well any panel has outputs of which you can program for any reason....you would probably be looking at the texecom range of panels as i am guessing you are not part of the trade(cos if you were you would'nt be asking the question!!!!!! )
antinode Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Hi allI'm looking to install a fairly standard system BUT would like to have a facility where at night, one zone arms automatically to monitor beam sensors around the property. If the zone is triggered, I'd like it to signal (chime) on a keypad (or some device) in the bedroom, rather than triggering an alarm and, after a couple of minutes, trigger a relay I can use to switch on security lighting. Can anyone recommend a panel I can use that will provide this simple feature? Thanks Bugsley The old DA Systems Abacus panels had a "Spy Night" zone that would only chime, wether thes system was set or unset, but these panels have been discontinued for a while now. You can do what you want with the Ademco Galaxy panels using links and timers, but to be honest (and with the greatest respect to you) it might be a bit over your head if you've never used one before. Might be easier to rig a seperate system up for the beams using some relays and a buzzer etc. Can be done easily that way. Trade Member
mjw Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 The old DA Systems Abacus panels had a "Spy Night" zone that would only chime, wether thes system was set or unset, but these panels have been discontinued for a while now. You can do what you want with the Ademco Galaxy panels using links and timers, but to be honest (and with the greatest respect to you) it might be a bit over your head if you've never used one before. Might be easier to rig a seperate system up for the beams using some relays and a buzzer etc. Can be done easily that way. Also galaxy is meant for trade only
Guest Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Any panel you like, plus power supply, beam/s, timer relay boards, buzzer/sounder etc, relay/contactor for lights and most important of all, the knowledge of how to do it, and of course an electrician to do the mains electrical work, good luck. Or rather than a panel, a 1 gang light switch with a bit of tape stuck across it that says 'ON' and 'OFF' in a legible format. Much easier than a Galaxy or similar if you don't 'do alarms'.
Guest Peter James Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 You wont buy a panel off the shelf that does this as standard, but as said earlier its all do able basic stuff not rocket science. Pete
bugsley999 Posted December 21, 2006 Author Posted December 21, 2006 1. Nope not part of the industry. 2. Been in industrial automation / control engineering for 25 years so know a little bit that's slightly related. 3. Trying to find out what software facilities are available on control boxes appears to be like finding rocking horse manure which is why I asked the question. 4. The Texecom Veritas range for example, does not appear to have the facility for timed arming of any zone and that's as basic a system as I would think anyone would buy. 5. The Texecom Premier 24 does appear to have the timed arming facility, but finding out whether or not one can get it to alarm on the panel but not the main bell I have been unable to figure out. 6. Where does one get information to compare the software features of different systems ? 7. I know it should be do able - but what bit of kit will do it most cost effectively? Bugsley
james.wilson Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 bugsley, years of experience and testing panels on the bench. re timed setting is not a basic feature at all. If you want top end features you need to spend proper money on your panel, ie not securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
arfur mo Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Hi allI'm looking to install a fairly standard system BUT would like to have a facility where at night, one zone arms automatically to monitor beam sensors around the property. If the zone is triggered, I'd like it to signal (chime) on a keypad (or some device) in the bedroom, rather than triggering an alarm and, after a couple of minutes, trigger a relay I can use to switch on security lighting. Can anyone recommend a panel I can use that will provide this simple feature? Thanks Bugsley hi Bugsley999, integrated systems are more complex to set up, and usually means you will require more specialised knowledge of what is needed and how to marry them together (which is exactely what we have). you can achieve you aims more simply by using seperate 'off the shelf' items. i express strongly here all mains wiring is potentially very dangerous to handle and can cause serious injury, fire or death and you should employ a fully qualified electrician for you and your families persomnal safety. ignore this advice at your peril! lighting control systems come in several flavours, from the cheapy If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
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