Monteey Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Yes guys, the poster asked a simple question and doesnt deserve to be cross examined, if you cant or dont want to offer assistance then please dont post. Mark Hawks Ex BT Openreach Field Service Now Self employed telecom and data engineer www.mphtelecom.co.uk Also back doing sub contract work in the security industry. Retained firefighter Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerabloke Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 well said, jeez, agrreing with a mod Eucam Security Systems 0845 4630 746 www.eucam.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm360 Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Yes guys, the poster asked a simple question and doesnt deserve to be cross examined, if you cant or dont want to offer assistance then please dont post. Thanks for the defence but if I can return the favour so to speak - I do not mind explaining why. I have rennovated my house from top to bottom: including new ceilings, stud walls, floors, plumbing, electrics etc - I enjoy the challenge and find it rewarding. The house concerned is a simple 2 up and 2 down end of terrace and therefore the alarm system is very simple, if I was installing a system in an 8 bed mansion then I would be getting a professional in! But it goes hand in hand to say that if I could afford such a mansion then I would be able to afford the prices that I was quoted by some professionals. I understand that is frustrating for professionals but in the south of england, professionals charge a lot for a day's work. (Probably a reflection on the cost of living imposed upon us in the UK - see separate impeding thread on the state of the UK!). In the early days when I started on the house, I had a lot of professionals carry out work on various jobs and I found the majority to be 'taking the mickey' somewhat - generally wasting my time and money - while I respect the need of any professional to earn a buck and not work their proverbial off for it, I do not expect to be treated like an idiot and subjected to some of the simple ploys that they used. In essence, I have been bitten too many times by 'professionals' taking me for a numpty, therefore, my first inclination is to give it a go myself and this has worked very well for me. However, this is not an option for everyone, there are many, many, nay millions of people out there who do not know one end of a screwdriver from another - let alone a power tool - so I think the market is under no danger from us DIY-ers..and frankly if the professional building trade smartened its act up a bit and remebered that being a professional is also about being efficient, economical and courteous then I would certainly pay more often and be off down the pub the instead! Although my alarm system will not be certificated I am sure it will serve its function as part of my home security improvements very well. It seems relativily easy to install and there are instructions for testing and servicing. So in summary, thank goodness forums like this exist - long live the DIY'er! - I don't think it does any harm for professionals to give good advice, as I would recommend a friendly professional to any of my less able mates (I'm certainly not doing it for them!) The old adage 'information is power' doesn't work. PS: I will be the first to call a professional when it all goes horribly wrong! although I suspect the call out fee from Hull will be astronomical! DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurandy Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 I don't think it does any harm for professionals to give good advice, as I would recommend a friendly professional to any of my less able mates... Spot on :!: PS It's nice to have someone here who can spell and also takes the time to construct a sentence! (OK, several) PPS I don't know what panel you've got, but it probably has a "global tamper loop" - did you spot that and understand how it's wired up? Your original question hinted maybe not.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Give the guy a break, this is the DIY forum..........and he may have very good reasons (*I did) QFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm360 Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Spot on :!: PS It's nice to have someone here who can spell and also takes the time to construct a sentence! (OK, several) PPS I don't know what panel you've got, but it probably has a "global tamper loop" - did you spot that and understand how it's wired up? Your original question hinted maybe not.............. , I have a Intellisense panel: SECURIT 802 Control panel - I am assuming that I run a tamper loop (2 wires) from each sensor and attach it to the tamper circuit in the panel?? Very happy to take any advice/top tips you have for me? Thanks DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alarm Protection Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 With the tamper pairs back at the control panel you have to have them in series normally using connector block. This should be in the manual but a few guys on here have a diagram. . ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullofaplace Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 glad we could helpbut you really should get a pro in though :whistle: hmm looks like a similar reply to mine ? I apologise for any shooting down done by me but i am confused i thought giving information out in the public forum's was against rules? Call out fee from hull!! No mate i'd recommended a professional lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerabloke Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 hmm looks like a similar reply to mine ? sarcasm rules!!! Eucam Security Systems 0845 4630 746 www.eucam.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm360 Posted December 31, 2006 Author Share Posted December 31, 2006 With the tamper pairs back at the control panel you have to have them in series normally using connector block. This should be in the manual but a few guys on here have a diagram.. Good point - I had not picked up on that. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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