arfur mo Posted March 25, 2008 Posted March 25, 2008 did you actually read the copy of the building regs I posted? TBH theres nothing on your list that might need notifying (until you get into a special location) and if it did a small cheque to building control and the jobs legit anywaynot saying I havnt used the same excuse myself once or twice, but its certainly NOT illegal most of what she wants done is in the kitchen area - aka wet area's under part 'p' so definitely comes into play and you no me so well for my love of regs . i just don't want that sort of work, i can make far more and better money elsewhere doing the work i actually like doing best (important to me) and i already have all the proper tools for. this is same as i don't want or do door entry or fire alarm work, not dissing these trades in any way, just not my personal preference to do that kind of work - just don''t get my juices running simple as. i don't know if you ever worked for one the real big firms, you'd some engineers prefer installation, others service dept i enjoyed both but imo service better fun for the fault finding aspect. installation engineers seemed to sub-devide into those who would prefer private house work (like me) others who prefered commercial, just the way your personally wired if you see what i mean . like i say to clients i can fix washing machines no probs, i just can't work out how to program one - so i us the wife regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
ICEbear Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 I cant for love nor money understand why any normal/average person would want to vote labour.And cherie, well, i dont agree with violence towards women but shes the exception. I HATE LABOUR TOO MATE WITH A F.......G PASION IS'NT IT ABOUT TIME WE ALL STUDD UP TO THIS COUNCIL TAX AS WELL
ICEbear Posted March 27, 2008 Posted March 27, 2008 most of what she wants done is in the kitchen area - aka wet area's under part 'p' so definitely comes into play and you no me so well for my love of regs .i just don't want that sort of work, i can make far more and better money elsewhere doing the work i actually like doing best (important to me) and i already have all the proper tools for. this is same as i don't want or do door entry or fire alarm work, not dissing these trades in any way, just not my personal preference to do that kind of work - just don''t get my juices running simple as. i don't know if you ever worked for one the real big firms, you'd some engineers prefer installation, others service dept i enjoyed both but imo service better fun for the fault finding aspect. installation engineers seemed to sub-devide into those who would prefer private house work (like me) others who prefered commercial, just the way your personally wired if you see what i mean . like i say to clients i can fix washing machines no probs, i just can't work out how to program one - so i us the wife regs alan like i say to clients i can fix washing machines no probs, i just can't work out how to program one - so i us the wife VERY TRUE me too
JohnCunningham Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 IS part P ****? Yes. Is it stopping cowboy sparks, No. IS it lining the pockets of the institutions and the goverment , Yes. That said, I believe that all electricians should be registered and the fear of dodgy work should have the same fear as gas work seems to have. Few people would fit a boiler but many would try and rewire something. I test rental property electrics for living and you can tell from the offset whether its going to be a good day or not. You can tell whether the house has been rewired DIY, Builder or electrician within the first 10 mins. The terrible and dangerous things I have seen over the years is mind boggling. Electrical installation work needs to be done by an electrician who is competent and follows the regs. Don't get me wrong a keen diyer or competent person can do a good job but they don't have the test equipment to test the installation after the work is complete. You would not believe how many non continuous ring mains I find after some DIY sockets have been installed. Normally in some taped up choc bloc under floor boards somewhere and been like that for 20 yrs. The reason why I believe this is the case? I was a competent DIYer, builder, house renovator which retrained as an electrician and now is NICEIC registered. When I look back to some of the stuff I had done in the past through ignorance, well I'd rather not remember. Most well meaning landlords I meet do stuff that just isn't right but they think it is good enough. I am not a money making con merchant, I work on electrics only 3 days a week and only work for landlords who I have mutual trust with. Part P though. Poorly executed. Although as a NICEIC full contractor though hasn't cost me a jot. I get free domestic installer as a full contractor and each job costs
Guest anguscanplay Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 Don't get me wrong a keen diyer or competent person can do a good job but they don't have the test equipment to test the installation after the work is complete. er thats the whole reason for the introduction of PP - its down to the BCO to test the work on their behalf
billythebellbox Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 The cost of De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da. De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da
whistle Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 cost you a dam site more to be a "proper" alarm company Agreed. We have just done the 1 day ACT part p corse. So we can now issue a small works cert for fuse spur's another 200 quid down the pan. I have been fitting fuse spur's for 20 years
Guest anguscanplay Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 Agreed.We have just done the 1 day ACT part p corse. So we can now issue a small works cert for fuse spur's another 200 quid down the pan. I have been fitting fuse spur's for 20 years but at least now you can prove it.
JohnCunningham Posted April 6, 2008 Posted April 6, 2008 Thats right , it does cost more for other institution memberships than the NICEIC or equivalent. Of course there are extra costs they put on such as paperwork costs etc. But I think on the whole
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