arfur mo Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 lol..... Aljrob, there is more to nsi and ssaib than police response, but go for your life and yes ther is James, but how long did you want my post to be? i just covered some of the more hidden points, the guy don't want to be an installer - yet regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
arfur mo Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 we have outstanding issue's - place me on your ignor list as you rcently proved no point in me having any discussion with you. what i have said is factual - read it again i will not discuss openly the finer details of this guys system within a public forum in order to offer a guestimate price, i would not trust with all respects to the op, a client's untrained oppinion on what he/she thinks he/she needs? that would be some risk assesment imo i deal in security and client confedentiality, as i just happen to work in the security industy and i take giving my advice because of it very seriously. If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
james.wilson Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 enough now lads, keep it civil (looks at arf) securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
arfur mo Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 enough now lads, keep it civil (looks at arf) some just don't respect that word 'civil' let alone respect.. reg's alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
Guest rjbsec Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 you will encure with most companies an anual maintenance costs (but not with mine as i work differently) which covers you for one anual visit on a siren only system, and the right to call there service dept 24 hours a day for a fault, You don't recommend maintenance? You don't do maintenance? You don't do callout? You work for free?
arfur mo Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 You don't recommend maintenance?oh, another arfurburner stike me thinks -:and where did i ever say or intimate that Roger? answer me this, is it an approved registered guys thing, to read something and totally misread or not understand it? - oops! sorry you must be good at all this as you have to read all those regs i don't bother with (as if), incedentally, did you find that regs bit on tampers yet, mind you i thought you had to know the regs off by heart, my mistake again?i digress-:yes i do recommend maintenance is done regularly, but i don't stick my clients arm up their back to stay with me by using a contract. You don't do maintenance?yes i do - see above - like my doctor checks me out regularly, but by request not compulsion. You don't do callout?yes i do, 24 hour availability for no standing charge as it's not needed very often - thiss an experience + quality of instal + equipment thing (and i'm also very healthy and thank you for asking). You work for free? i see your mis reading me again, please pay attention - i charge for the installation (like the prescription), but if this o/p was to recommend and i got 10 aalarms from his leads or has a large factory and he wants a new phone system along with structured cabling and CCTv, he may well get his home and/or office alarm for absolutely free. so whats your problem with that please tell me i'm all ears, as imo it is no diferent to offering a discount for the total contract quantity or as a thankyou. or do you turn 35% trade discount for quantity down at your wholesalers on moral grounds? well i think not but again please let us all know for sure won't you?. looks like i'm really 'the doctor' then if you really want to throw rocks at me, best you not use regulation 'grains of sand' imo. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
Aljrob Posted February 13, 2007 Author Posted February 13, 2007 Woo, things seem to have drifted a little off-topic Moving swiftly along, thanks all for your advice thus far - any further input welcome...
Zak Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 Please keep this thread on topic and not dig up the same old arguments that are best discussed elsewhere, unless the topic opener states an interest(!). At the end of the day if Aljrob wants to have an insurance approved alarm he will have to use an SSAIB/NSI company. If he doesn't need it approved then he can go anywhere. TBH, why someone would not use an approved company is beyond me, but clearly lots do. Edit: Aljrob posted while I was compiling mine Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company.
Aljrob Posted February 13, 2007 Author Posted February 13, 2007 At the end of the day if Aljrob wants to have an insurance approved alarm he will have to use an SSAIB/NSI company. If he doesn't need it approved then he can go anywhere. TBH, why someone would not use an approved company is beyond me, but clearly lots do. Hi Zak, I was wondering whether there are SSAIB/NSI companies who will fit bells-only systems (i've come accross a fair number on Google who only do monitor systems - is commission paid to installers by the monitoring co's I wonder )? Whilst I can of course see the benefit of a police response system, this is our first house and my partner and I simply don't have the spare finances at the moment to commit to paying
Zak Posted February 13, 2007 Posted February 13, 2007 Hi Zak,I was wondering whether there are SSAIB/NSI companies who will fit bells-only systems (i've come accross a fair number on Google who only do monitor systems - is commission paid to installers by the monitoring co's I wonder )? Whilst I can of course see the benefit of a police response system, this is our first house and my partner and I simply don't have the spare finances at the moment to commit to paying Zak Tankel - Managing Director - Security First (UK) - www.securityfirst.uk.com Disclaimer: Any comments or opinions expressed by me are my own as a member of the public and not of my employer or Company.
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