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[Guest]

Here's an idea, lets just use a Biometric Reader....................

That could be tricky considering the top half of my thumb is in a jar somewhere after i chopped it off many ears ago

[Cubit]

Here's an idea, lets just use a Biometric Reader....................

For what???

Spending the budget??

[Guest]

Still, what's wrong with a little deviation now and again??

Andrew

more likely it is a TSI66-9 directive that prohibits keeping strictly on topic..

[Guest]

what i mean is if joe bloggs the accountant of jb electronic manufacturers (yes its a false name) is on his way to work and gets mugged and beat up by two blokes that steals his wallet, cards and keys (hypothetically) and they know he has been working at that company jb electronics they can gain access to that premises that morning or night and then take whatever they like. i know it probably would never happen in the real world

real life is much more miraclous than fairy tales. besides it is time to take this topic to trade i think.

but has this been thought of or not??

and sorry if it sounds really stooopid

cjt

and - depends of the philosopher..

[Guest]

regs regs regs

Once the police give up responding to Alarm activations and we all have to use guarding firms for our response we can do what we bloody want,

it will be what guarding companies want. Securitas terms of contract is quite a few pages here - i don't think it will be shorter there...

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Most of SSS jobs now are keyholder only(securitas Gaurds) and none of them are up to EN regs of unsetting with prox. They are still code unset.

have I missed something? thought code is OK still.. thou if we program codes like eng who only used three digits + one for group and insurers find out

If a customer self insures its premises surley it doesnt need to stick to the regs does it??

Chris

if he does get an insurance and is solely on guard response i do not see anything holding the customer to install whatever **** he would like to - BUT guards will charge every time they attend - also guards will disconnect your system from response if it alarms too many times because it will affect their performance as well..

so i don't see very much change coming.

[Guest]

... how would the A/C system know whether to open the door or arm the panel??

Andrew

you still don't know??

let me give you a hint: how does last person know he is a last person?

do you see where im going or not?

colin

have seen it a decade ago - no worriers..

All been discussed before. Not much can be done in certain circumstances as it's what the regs state, and as has been said, rules is rules.

QFA thou

[Guest]

Here's an idea, lets just use a Biometric Reader....................

you both seem to have lost the plot.

wasn't the idea behind access control to also IDENTIFY people who enter the building?

now - tell me how you identify people with a prox reader.

[Guest]

For what???

Spending the budget??

if i would spend my own R&D budget to support mickeysoft and customers budget for the support of the before mentioned i wouldn't speak anything about "spending the budget on biometric readers"

[Drew]

Really interesting topic this. Andrew and Richard - you said pretty much what I would have said, including how systems work and the reality behind it. It's really good to have another access control manufacturer to talk to, by the way. Welcome!

We offer the choice of prox only or PIN and prox for the deactivation sequence. You can require a PIN only when unsetting the alarm and the ACU does get feedback from the alarm system that it is unset before allowing access. This means: no false entries, and the ability to have the door conveniently useable by all in the alarm unset condition and just by 'keyholders' when the alarm is set, so you can tweak things how you want.

The threat thing is only a reality in a fraction of instances, so it's important to offer convenience for low security applications and safeguards where risks are worse. If the risk of getting clonked in the head is real, relying on a PIN or a card as a single line of defence would be absurd - but most of you know that better than I do.

I agree with Georg - this topic should be in the Trade section before discussing any more detail.

[Richard Huison]

Morning Drew,

Hope to see you soon.

Regards

Richard