stender Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Hi All, I've just moved into a new house which has a rebel 8/9 installed but whoever the cowboy installer was thought it was ok practice to run a cable out of the ceiling 4 inches from the wall and straight into the floor 4 inches away from wall!!!! I therefore need to re-run the cable behind the wall. The cable runs from the keypad nr my front door, to the main control panel in my airing cupboard. I have traced the cable and can see the 5 wires connected but my question is can I just disconnect the 5 wires or will this set off the alarm? If it will set off the alarm how do i disconnect it??? Lastly i'm not sure if the engineer code is the default sorry, no default info allowed. We were only left 1 user code. Thanks in advance!
kka Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 normally when you cut the wire to the keypad, the alarm will indicate / sound tamper (may be internal sounders only). this can be silenced using the customer code. but in tamper mode the alarm will not be able to be set. Kevin Scott. Owner of KK Alarms...... Installation .. Service .. Repair ...... Thoughout.. Northumberland and North Tyneside ..... Tel:01670 361948 (call diverted after 15 seconds) or 07947444114
Guest anguscanplay Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 normally when you cut the wire to the keypad, the alarm will indicate / sound tamper (may be internal sounders only). this can be silenced using the customer code. but in tamper mode the alarm will not be able to be set. and blow a fuse and youve disconnected the keypad to stop it and it should be sounding outside - might be easier to sink the cable into the wall - or call in an engineer
kka Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 two good reasons to get a pro in Kevin Scott. Owner of KK Alarms...... Installation .. Service .. Repair ...... Thoughout.. Northumberland and North Tyneside ..... Tel:01670 361948 (call diverted after 15 seconds) or 07947444114
stender Posted April 20, 2007 Author Posted April 20, 2007 two good reasons to get a pro in It was a supposed pro who installed it. Dunno where he tied his horse up though. I can't channel it in easily as it's plasterboard walls and drilled through chipboard flooring. There must be a way to disconnect it I take it you 2 are pros and are going to tell me it's far too complicated for an amateur and that I should pay
antinode Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 It was a supposed pro who installed it. Dunno where he tied his horse up though.I can't channel it in easily as it's plasterboard walls and drilled through chipboard flooring. There must be a way to disconnect it I take it you 2 are pros and are going to tell me it's far too complicated for an amateur and that I should pay Trade Member
stender Posted April 20, 2007 Author Posted April 20, 2007 You can do what you like mate as far as we are concerned. We can only advise on the best course of action (for free in case you didn't notice). I suppose you will want us to tell you how to get it all working again when you put it back together and it doesn't work. If you think you are capable of carrying out the work we aren't going to stop you...Plasterboard walls and chipboard flooring isn't really a challenge for someone who knows what they are doing (no offence intended). Obviously your "installer" didn't. Best course of action being pay an extortionate fee. If I wanted to do that I wouldn't of bothered posting on here. I came on here as I thought i might get some help but I was obviously wrong!
kka Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 this on the face of it appears not to be too difficult a job, but like every thing else there may be hidden complications. i am sorry you have had a BAD EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST, but please do not tar us all with the same brush. between me and angus we gave you two pointers as to what will happen if you cut the wire. where / the way you run the new wire may be different to the way i would do it, the trick is to hide the wire, so no other complications occur in the future. you may find that when you power down the mains,to isolate the 240 supply the alarm may go off due to a dead battery, then a test on the charging circuit may reveal that this is damaged, and a new panel is required.these are but a few of the things and there are more, a pro should do. Kevin Scott. Owner of KK Alarms...... Installation .. Service .. Repair ...... Thoughout.. Northumberland and North Tyneside ..... Tel:01670 361948 (call diverted after 15 seconds) or 07947444114
stender Posted April 20, 2007 Author Posted April 20, 2007 this on the face of it appears not to be too difficult a job, but like every thing else there may be hidden complications. i am sorry you have had a BAD EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST, but please do not tar us all with the same brush. between me and angus we gave you two pointers as to what will happen if you cut the wire.where / the way you run the new wire may be different to the way i would do it, the trick is to hide the wire, so no other complications occur in the future. you may find that when you power down the mains,to isolate the 240 supply the alarm may go off due to a dead battery, then a test on the charging circuit may reveal that this is damaged, and a new panel is required.these are but a few of the things and there are more, a pro should do. this on the face of it appears not to be too difficult a job, but like every thing else there may be hidden complications. i am sorry you have had a BAD EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST, but please do not tar us all with the same brush. between me and angus we gave you two pointers as to what will happen if you cut the wire. where / the way you run the new wire may be different to the way i would do it, the trick is to hide the wire, so no other complications occur in the future. you may find that when you power down the mains,to isolate the 240 supply the alarm may go off due to a dead battery, then a test on the charging circuit may reveal that this is damaged, and a new panel is required.these are but a few of the things and there are more, a pro should do. So in order to take 5 wires off and connect same 5 wires I need a load of work? Can't believe there's not a way to disconect a keypad without the alarm ringing. I may as well rip the whole thing out and install a wireless.
amateurandy Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 So in order to take 5 wires off and connect same 5 wires I need a load of work? Can't believe there's not a way to disconect a keypad without the alarm ringing. I may as well rip the whole thing out and install a wireless. Unfortunately the first part of that is true; the keypad is a core part of the system. Remember alarms are designed specifically to be difficult to disable - would you like a burglar to break in and turn it of in seconds? If you didn't install it yourself and don't have the installation manual you really do need a pro to do it properly (not the cowboy who did it the first time). As for the second part - search around for comments on wireless alarms; it's a contentious topic!
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