arfur mo Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 you sure? Very i have the system on my own house. if you select auto part set option to be on, and make Timed or E/E, if you then set with the radio button and/or do not activate a contact or detector programmed as final exit you will get part set, thats how it works B) . regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Very i have the system on my own house.if you select auto part set option to be on, and make Timed or E/E, if you then set with the radio button and/or do not activate a contact or detector programmed as final exit you will get part set, thats how it works B) . regs alan youre right but as you say rather defeats the point of remote tx for setting and you get the buzzing too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 youre right but as you say rather defeats the point of remote tx for setting and you get the buzzing too tbo the radio fobs are very very useful, especially if used instead of a second keypad. you can prog different fobs for different actions. so by having one fob progged for full arm which is carried in the car, and another for PTS/1 for use from the bedroom will overcome the issues and makes operation very easy for the users. PTS/1 can be 'silent' arm, or instant set but. i prefer 15 seconds set delay. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 tbo the radio fobs are very very useful, especially if used instead of a second keypad. you can prog different fobs for different actions. so by having one fob progged for full arm which is carried in the car, and another for PTS/1 for use from the bedroom will overcome the issues and makes operation very easy for the users.PTS/1 can be 'silent' arm, or instant set but. i prefer 15 seconds set delay. regs alan two fobs? - what a palava one in the car so you forget it and have to run back all the time and another left in the bedroom - its like the old days and leaving the key in the panel then youve still got to listen to the buzzer gardtec got it wrong on the radio side by trying to modify the existing panels instead of designing new ones you heard my new phrase " thats why i love this forum - you ask about batteries and ten answers later you get a recipe for strawberry cheesecake" angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 two fobs? - what a palava one in the car so you forget it and have to run back all the time and another left in the bedroom - its like the old days and leaving the key in the panel then youve still got to listen to the buzzer gardtec got it wrong on the radio side by trying to modify the existing panels instead of designing new ones you heard my new phrase " thats why i love this forum - you ask about batteries and ten answers later you get a recipe for strawberry cheesecake" angus not really a palava Angus, it is very common on larger houses to offer a second or even third keypad, so the fobs become more cost effective per unit and 8 per expander are accomodated. it would depend on the clients budget and the ease/sophistication of use required, but you can also use a mixture of G-Tags. so there are many configurations that can be used. prog the strobe for confirmation on full set, take an led of that output and place in a suitable position to be easily seen, you don't need to listen for the internal siren to stop. the only 'cribe' i have with Gardtec radio, is like iD zones it is not accesable from the remote UDL to check the log or alter peramiters. but as a kit it is simply the best i've ever used, and that is very high praise from an old 'stickler' like me. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 not really a palava Angus,it is very common on larger houses to offer a second or even third keypad, so the fobs become more cost effective per unit and 8 per expander are accomodated. you would still be leaving an unsetting device within the protected area - might as well have an on off switch it would depend on the clients budget and the ease/sophistication of use required, but you can also use a mixture of G-Tags. yet another unsetting device to leave lying about so there are many configurations that can be used. prog the strobe for confirmation on full set, take an led of that output and place in a suitable position to be easily seen, you don't need to listen for the internal siren to stop.or even easier just watch the strobe - gardtec have a big issue with the system failing to set by switching back to day mode rather than auto isolating and the only way you know its set is to see its set the only 'cribe' i have with Gardtec radio, is like iD zones it is not accesable from the remote UDL to check the log or alter peramiters. but as a kit it is simply the best i've ever used, its outdated and as said really not suitable for external radio arming and that is very high praise from an old 'stickler' like me. have to give you that regs alan most other senarios i would agree with you and we use gardtec exclusivly but the radio angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 most other senarios i would agree with you and we use gardtec exclusivly but the radio angus the unsetting device within the protected area can be levelled at all kit with such radio fob or prox devices, and is a matter for the client to be made properly aware by the installer, and to advise to take them with them or lock them away from easy access. i wanted to point out the versatility not write a book on every scenareo i can think of - but i can if anyone wants me to can't say i have had noted any issues with non-sets, i would suspect (i might be wrong though) this is more due to a miss operation by user, or design error in the exit proceedure programming. i tend to increase the delayed set option to 8 seconds as a matter or course, mainly to prevent drafts from tripping hall or landing detectors or blowing open an insecure door causing an alarm shortly after when leaving and closing the front door. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anguscanplay Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 the unsetting device within the protected area can be levelled at all kit with such radio fob or prox devices, and is a matter for the client to be made properly aware by the installer, and to advise to take them with them or lock them away from easy access.i wanted to point out the versatility not write a book on every scenareo i can think of - but i can if anyone wants me to regs alan if thats likely to happen i`ll shut up now just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arfur mo Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 if thats likely to happen i`ll shut up now just in case lol be afraid - very afraid regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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