newguy Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 Hello all, I'm fitting an alarm for a customer who wants a separate but cheap system for his garage. His last garage alarm was a B&Q battery operated unit. As the garage has power, anyone got a suggestion for a suitable cheap mains powered unit to cope with up and over door and side upvc entry door (- assuming one pir and two contacts). I was leaning towards the texecom V8 but surely there is something cheaper and suitable? Any suggestions?? There's no substitute for experience .......... so all opinions welcome!
paul1471 Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 Hello all,I'm fitting an alarm for a customer who wants a separate but cheap system for his garage. His last garage alarm was a B&Q battery operated unit. As the garage has power, anyone got a suggestion for a suitable cheap mains powered unit to cope with up and over door and side upvc entry door (- assuming one pir and two contacts). I was leaning towards the texecom V8 but surely there is something cheaper and suitable? Any suggestions?? Wouldnt it be cheaper to fit a RKP and a few detectors in the garage connected to the main house alarm ??
Guest anguscanplay Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 Hello all,I'm fitting an alarm for a customer who wants a separate but cheap system for his garage. His last garage alarm was a B&Q battery operated unit. As the garage has power, anyone got a suggestion for a suitable cheap mains powered unit to cope with up and over door and side upvc entry door (- assuming one pir and two contacts). I was leaning towards the texecom V8 but surely there is something cheaper and suitable? Any suggestions?? hi welcome to the forum , pray tell , just what is your occupation ?
magpye Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 hi welcome to the forum , pray tell , just what is your occupation ? What a patronizing reply. May I answer for newguy, pray tell, what business is it of yours? Someone told me I was ignorant and apathetic, I don't know what that means, nor do I care.
amateurandy Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 What a patronizing reply.May I answer for newguy, pray tell, what business is it of yours? Well, it might help people understand his skill set for a start and reply accordingly, seems reasonable to me ..... He did say "I'm fitting an alarm for a customer" so he could be an alarm engineer(?), electrician, builder or handyman for example.
Guest anguscanplay Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 What a patronizing reply.May I answer for newguy, pray tell, what business is it of yours? hey i`m just asking so I could tailor any advise to the o/p skill level yep i`m patronising but and its a big but if the guy is asking what panel to fit in a garage for " a customer " chances are he aint a regd sparks or competant security installer and thats before we get to the requirments to comply with part P of the building regulations.We have all heard the " its DIY so rules dont apply " attitude you seem so keen to push but if its paid for it aint diy is it ? So is he a sparks,alarm installer,IT consulatant,diy handyman,builder,gate installer,carpet fitter or what as only two of them will be able to self certiyfy a garage install. Or i could have just answered " the one the local NSI / SSAIB installer specifies " but that would have just been no help Angus
barooga Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 What a patronizing reply.May I answer for newguy, pray tell, what business is it of yours? Helpful as ever i see. A little background info allows for a more specific answer. So, we await your suggestion with eager anticipation. Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional
newguy Posted July 15, 2007 Author Posted July 15, 2007 Hello guys, Surprised at comments in banter so far but thank you for replys. Had internet trouble hence delay. I am a newly qualified alarm installer and only done half a dozen jobs to date. Customer requires a separate system from house and garage outbuilding is someway from the home anyway. There is power to garage (recently rewired) and no sink/water facility. I do not believe installing small system here would consitute notifiable work under building regs so Part P is not appropriate is it? (power source is main dwelling and unswitched fused spur would be added to existing ring). So now you all have the background (..... oh, shoe size 9 incidentally) - what small mains powered system could anyone recommend for a pre-cast concrete garage with up and over door?? ! There's no substitute for experience .......... so all opinions welcome!
john@total Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Hello guys,Surprised at comments in banter so far but thank you for replys. Had internet trouble hence delay. I am a newly qualified alarm installer and only done half a dozen jobs to date. Customer requires a separate system from house and garage outbuilding is someway from the home anyway. There is power to garage (recently rewired) and no sink/water facility. I do not believe installing small system here would consitute notifiable work under building regs so Part P is not appropriate is it? (power source is main dwelling and unswitched fused spur would be added to existing ring). So now you all have the background (..... oh, shoe size 9 incidentally) - what small mains powered system could anyone recommend for a pre-cast concrete garage with up and over door?? ! Hi mate best cheep panel for your needs will be a scantronic 9448+ with on board keyboard, better looking than a veritas, have fitted loads of these in garages, just make sure you fit r/s contacts on up&over, surface on side door & DT not a pir
Guest anguscanplay Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Hello guys,. I am a newly qualified alarm installer and only done half a dozen jobs to date. Customer requires a separate system from house and garage outbuilding is someway from the home anyway. There is power to garage (recently rewired) and no sink/water facility. I do not believe installing small system here would consitute notifiable work under building regs so Part P is not appropriate is it? (power source is main dwelling and unswitched fused spur would be added to existing ring). ! Hi Newguy where did you get the qualification ? if they have given you that advise about when Part P is applicable ? it can be summed up quite neatly as " if the work is in a special location - kitchen , bathroom , OUTSIDE then part p will apply " the only way you would get away with not certifying to comply with part p ( needs minor works instead if your fitting fixed equipment btw ) is to use a socket and plug outlet or upgrade the control unit and fit radio. might be a time to ask yourself as a " newly qualified " alarm installer are garage additions really the way you want to go ? As to which panel - use any it makes no difference does it ?
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