arfur mo Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Been there, done all that already, thanks though In this case the hinge side is actually workable believe it or not, as it's outward opening and the inner surface is some way from the hinge pivot point. Triggers at less than 75mm open at the handle side. not wanting any bun fight here, but i was taught you never fit the contact to the hinge side (well after the demise of the ]'G' contact and the pye micro concealled contact anyway, as a villain could simply cut out the rest of door witout tripping the alarm, well is what i was told anyway, and would never be up to any standards surely imo. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
amateurandy Posted August 4, 2007 Author Posted August 4, 2007 i was taught you never fit the contact to the hinge side To be fair I didn't say I was going to, just that having tested it (in many positions), it actually worked! Anyway, as you suggested I'm going to get some of those little block contacts and try a few things out. The whole doorway is well-covered by a PIR as mentioned earlier so it's not critical. TBH the main reason it's there is that we have it on chime permanently to know if anyone opens the back door.
arfur mo Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 To be fair I didn't say I was going to, just that having tested it (in many positions), it actually worked!Anyway, as you suggested I'm going to get some of those little block contacts and try a few things out. The whole doorway is well-covered by a PIR as mentioned earlier so it's not critical. TBH the main reason it's there is that we have it on chime permanently to know if anyone opens the back door. see i got to woried, is that because i'm your inspectorate until you go NSI/SSAIB? lo! but don't woryy andy, i'm not really being your inspectorate just thought it would be a good moment to exspalin, as we do lots of stuff to standards but how many know why we do what we do the way we do it? so a sort of info MO'ment. like if it's a double door, even with interlocking rebate, you still have to contact both sides, so the client don't leave the trailing leaf open, and still be able to set the alarm. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
amateurandy Posted August 5, 2007 Author Posted August 5, 2007 but don't woryy andy, i'm not really being your inspectorate Alan, I'm only worried about your spelling, grammar, use of capital letters and punctuation.
arfur mo Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Alan, I'm only worried about your spelling, grammar, use of capital letters and punctuation. so wats the smatter wiv my smeellling lol regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
amateurandy Posted August 7, 2007 Author Posted August 7, 2007 Thanks everyone for their advice. All the bits arrived this morning from Maplins (don't scoff!) and I've been testing what works. The "final solution", which I've yet to fix permanently, is a miniature "block" switch on the frame above the door; inside (obviously) and above the handle adjacent to the corner. For a magnet I'm using one from a heavy duty unit fixed directly to the top of the door; it's just the right size for the inner channel. It triggers nicely with about 30mm opening movement of the door.
amateurandy Posted August 7, 2007 Author Posted August 7, 2007 Here you go, I managed to get a good close-up picture: (I'll try to get another once I've painted and siliconed over the bits that need it. Should look a whole lot better )
F C E Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 alterEGO & Dave the alarm man your childish comments have been removed , if you wish to be warned carry on Remember this is in public All comments in this post are my own views and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer
amateurandy Posted August 8, 2007 Author Posted August 8, 2007 Here you go, I managed to get a good close-up picture:(I'll try to get another once I've painted and siliconed over the bits that need it. Should look a whole lot better ) Now, that's better; amazing what a bit of paint and silicone can do..... Note that what may appear to be cables inside the door frame is actually just the frame corner weld. The magnet housing is just visible sticking up above the top right of the door. The "boss" seems reasonably happy with it, which was the objective. And it works of course!
breff Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 We usually fit a normal surface contact on the bevelled edge so its as close to the door as possible. The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not)
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