amateurandy Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 want to get into semantics ? it has a ren value ( well used to anyway) - its a telephony device It has a REN of 1 according to BT here: http://www.redcare.bt.com/installers/train...ion/redcare.htm
arfur mo Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 I posted in reply to Andy, your`e still licking your wounds from previous threads and trying to make an issue out of this - follow your own advice you were smart in your reply to me, you were wrong, stop digging what like the one about gas powered alarm systems - never got a reply on that one and what wounds - name that thread imgination is a good thing, leads to ambition however doomed the target is you set another little 'observation' your in ana area full of engineers = no hiding place regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
arfur mo Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 Oh dear me Redcare is a third type of signal on the line. Off the top off my head I don't know or care if it needs filters, gumboots, wet towels or whatever to separate it from telephones or broadband. The OP didn't ask about Redcare so as the man says "calm down dears". thanks Andy, for Angus's benefit (as everyone else knew what you meant ), so i assume you were not talking about red care either then (do's he just love a good aimless ramble). regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
Guest Dave the alarm man Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 Will have to reconnect until I can get the plug and socket needed to fit in the microfilter. wants a hard wired one ask the alarm firm, as a stop gap ensue router is off before alarm is set, far from idea for pa ect...... BTW I do love the "expert" opinion given on redcare......
amateurandy Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 as far as i know you still can't have Red Care on an ADSL enabled line at the same time Time to update your knowledge base Arfur. There's even been some discussion here, a fair while back now, about exactly how to wire it up so that it all works properly. Friends of mine definitely have it as I had to advise them (a year or so back) what to say to the the alarm company so that their equipment was set up properly and filters put in the right places prior to ADSL being enabled. The alarm company was a major three-letter national with yellow hexagonal boxes, but their staff didn't have a clue at the time! I would hope they do by now.
Guest Dave the alarm man Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 The alarm company was a major three-letter national with yellow hexagonal boxes, but their staff didn't have a clue at the time! I would hope they do by now. well if the cleint was not such a cheap skate.................. best practice was before udl, external only incoming calls barred exclusive ex directory line for the controls terminated with a block termial, filters & serial disconnection not really being part of our job truth be told
arfur mo Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 Time to update your knowledge base Arfur. There's even been some discussion here, a fair while back now, about exactly how to wire it up so that it all works properly. Friends of mine definitely have it as I had to advise them (a year or so back) what to say to the the alarm company so that their equipment was set up properly and filters put in the right places prior to ADSL being enabled. The alarm company was a major three-letter national with yellow hexagonal boxes, but their staff didn't have a clue at the time! I would hope they do by now. thanks for the update, lucky i don't get involved at the 'sharp end' of red care then as sounds like a recipe for agony imo. used to be they would not even allow fax machines to be on the same line, has that also changed? i always thought this was a bit risky, some times you ring a house or buisness and you can hear the red care 'peep' which means it's not communicating, gives the game away to any felon who happens to phone them for even innocent reasons regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
breff Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 used to be they would not even allow fax machines to be on the same line, has that also changed? regs alan not advisable but ok as long as a mcd is fitted (mcd cuts off fax if redcare needs the line basically) The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not)
Guest Dave the alarm man Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 i always thought this was a bit risky, some times you ring a house or buisness and you can hear the red care 'peep' which means it's not communicating, gives the game away to any felon who happens to phone them for even innocent reasons really? I sure I not the only one who's been chatting some bird in arc up on a hosiden besson test phone on the same line with the old telecom red chirping in the back ground, i send the the signals & she knew what I sent, was I sweet talking mystic meg or what........
arfur mo Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 bygone times all this messing about in this thread reminded e of the 'old days' and direct lines, the tx's had to have low amp (i think 100 ma) fuses fitted in each line leg as stipulated by BT. to protevt their engineers from sny posible mains injection was given as the reason. because of their inherrent high resistance they were soldered to the pcb's of the tx's. but mr BT fault tech would go to the cabinet, megga the line and blow these fuses happy days regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
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