djrock Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Hello, I am trying to wire up an SD1 dialler. The only part I am not 100% sure of is wiring it to the panels comms port. The panel removes 5 volts positive in alarm. So if I set the SD1
Guest anguscanplay Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Old SD1? - 12v only remember though it`s looking for the change so you`ll not cause damage "So if I set the SD1
arfur mo Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 the SD1 can be set to + or - triggered inputs (can't remember but i there is i think a link/s) you will need to fit a 'pull down' bias resistor of 2.2k between negative (-) 12 volts and the input you using, do the same fore the other imputs with individual resistors. if your panel is 'removing' a strong positive but not actually applying a true negative, the SD1 needs a decent square wave to operate satisfactory so the ressistor applies enough negative to do this. regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
luggsey Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 the SD1 can be set to + or - triggered inputs (can't remember but i there is i think a link/s)you will need to fit a 'pull down' bias resistor of 2.2k between negative (-) 12 volts and the input you using, do the same fore the other imputs with individual resistors. if your panel is 'removing' a strong positive but not actually applying a true negative, the SD1 needs a decent square wave to operate satisfactory so the ressistor applies enough negative to do this. regs alan Simply put the removal of 12V + to 0v is not negative, just zero, the old menvier dialers needed a true negative signal to work as I found out..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is like a box of chocolates, some bugger always gets the nice ones! My Amateur Radio Forum
esp-protocol Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Just out of interest, why use an SD1 when you can use an SD2 that has much better facilities and alarm logging etc.....??
djrock Posted November 14, 2007 Author Posted November 14, 2007 Old SD1? - 12v only remember though it`s looking for the change so you`ll not cause damage "So if I set the SD1’s trigger polarity to negative will it be ok or will it damage the SD1? Since if the SD1 is expecting a negative supply on the trigger inputs when it gets a positive supply because the alarm has not been triggered" - thats how they work It’s the old SD1. The spec I have found says "Trigger inputs A, B, C +ve or –ve applied, max 24V". I was thinking that it was only looking for a change but wanted to be on the safe side. the SD1 can be set to + or - triggered inputs (can't remember but i there is i think a link/s)you will need to fit a 'pull down' bias resistor of 2.2k between negative (-) 12 volts and the input you using, do the same fore the other imputs with individual resistors. if your panel is 'removing' a strong positive but not actually applying a true negative, the SD1 needs a decent square wave to operate satisfactory so the ressistor applies enough negative to do this. regs alan In the manual I have which is not the SD1's manual but the old SD1+ its says a 1k resistor. So is the 2.2k resistor still ok then? I will be passing Maplins tomorrow so I just ask for a 2.2k resistor. Is this one ok Code: D2K2, 2W Res 2K2? I think what happens is the panel does not apply a negative it just removes the positive 5 voltages. Just out of interest, why use an SD1 when you can use an SD2 that has much better facilities and alarm logging etc.....?? I know the newer diallers are better like having more features. This dialler is not very old. I can’t remember but I don’t think it was installed for very long. It was put in a safe place, which was forgotten about. I was thinking about buying a newer one but I knew I had this one. Thankyou djrock
Guest anguscanplay Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Or just fire it off the bell ( forget what this lot are bound to say next)
djrock Posted November 14, 2007 Author Posted November 14, 2007 Or just fire it off the bell ( forget what this lot are bound to say next) I know I can trigger it off the bell output but I wanted to try and use the panels comm port if I can. Thankyou djrock
Guest anguscanplay Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 I know I can trigger it off the bell output but I wanted to try and use the panels comm port if I can.Thankyou djrock what panel is it? does it have a relay board available?
djrock Posted November 14, 2007 Author Posted November 14, 2007 Hello, I don't think it can take a relay board. So is it not possible to do it arfur mo's way? djrock
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