What Should Be Supplied At Work

[diablo559]

I know that there tools you supply yourself but what is your employer suppose to supply. where i work the set of ladders i use are rubbish the bottom rung has been replaced with a metal bar i know i shouldn't even be using them. the other two guys i work with bought there own ladders. along with numerous other things . I can't seem to get through to them that their using their tools to do his work. does anyone know whats deemed as what you supply to your job i what should be given from the employer. correct me if am wrong so i don't go barking up the wrong tree

[amateurandy]

Fit for purpose?

Health & safety?

[barooga]

Knowing them to be 'suspect' and still using them...oh dear.

Are you happy there??

[arfur mo]

Fit for purpose?

Health & safety?

the above should cover plant and tools your supplied with, should you have an accident proven to have been caused or aggravated by anything deemed unfit. then your boss would be possibly be looking at heavy fines and/or compensation claims.

if he is supplying diy grade not industrial rated he is running a very high risk of prosecution under h&s if they found out imo. the guys using their own steps etc, should they have an accident could be less likely to have any claim, perhaps even dismissal for gross misconduct if the boss claims in his defense he provides all plant and they should not have used theirs or the shops set.

as to where the line is drawn of what you officially provide, this is normally pointed out at interview and should be written into part of your contract of employment, but any verbal discussion also becomes binding as part of the contract. so if he says he provides a drill but don't, thats effectively breaking that contract.

i've been self employed for a long time now, but it used to be a 'given' that any plant like steps, ladders, drills, meter, drill bits or specialised tools were provided, you supplied hand tools like cutters, pliers, chisels, tack hammer, 1lb claw hammer, pry bar and screwdrivers perhaps the odd spanner.

some firms would issue the kit, and if you lost or brake anything you had to replace it, or they supplied and docked so much out of your wages to pay for it.

in reality i always bought all my own multi-meter/DVM's and power drills, the ones supplied were usually rubbish or so battered to be less use than junk.

in the employers 'defense', it has to be said any decent supplied kit often leaves with an employee as 'bunce' but really its stolen, to help combat this problem one of the best schemes imo was on shield alarms. you wanted a billy b's drill or meter for say

[Guest anguscanplay]

I know that there tools you supply yourself but what is your employer suppose to supply. where i work the set of ladders i use are rubbish the bottom rung has been replaced with a metal bar i know i shouldn't even be using them. the other two guys i work with bought there own ladders. along with numerous other things . I can't seem to get through to them that their using their tools to do his work. does anyone know whats deemed as what you supply to your job i what should be given from the employer. correct me if am wrong so i don't go barking up the wrong tree

leaving aside the ladder issue (which IS wrong and should be addressed immediatly) whats your problem with using your own tools if you consider them to be better for the job?

you sure this isnt just an "us versus them.." whine and your real issue is a personal one with the boss?

[arfur mo]

Fit for purpose?

Health & safety?

the above should cover plant and tools your supplied with, should you have an accident proven to have been caused or aggravated by anything deemed unfit. then your boss would be possibly be looking at heavy fines and/or compensation claims.

if he is supplying diy grade not industrial rated he is running a very high risk of prosecution under h&s if they found out imo. the guys using their own steps etc, should they have an accident could be less likely to have any claim, perhaps even dismissal for gross misconduct if the boss claims in his defense he provides all plant and they should not have used theirs or the shops set.

as to where the line is drawn of what you officially provide, this is normally pointed out at interview and should be written into part of your contract of employment, but any verbal discussion also becomes binding as part of the contract. so if he says he provides a drill but don't, thats effectively breaking that contract.

i've been self employed for a long time now, but it used to be a 'given' that any plant like steps, ladders, drills, meter, drill bits or specialised tools were provided, you supplied hand tools like cutters, pliers, chisels, tack hammer, 1lb claw hammer, pry bar and screwdrivers perhaps the odd spanner.

some firms would issue the kit, and if you lost or brake anything you had to replace it, or they supplied and docked so much out of your wages to pay for it.

in reality i always bought all my own multi-meter/DVM's and power drills, the ones supplied were usually rubbish or so battered to be less use than junk.

in the employers 'defense', it has to be said any decent supplied kit often leaves with an employee as 'bunce' but really its stolen, to help combat this problem one of the best schemes imo was on shield alarms. you wanted a billy b's drill or meter for say

[luggsey]

I know that there tools you supply yourself but what is your employer suppose to supply. where i work the set of ladders i use are rubbish the bottom rung has been replaced with a metal bar i know i shouldn't even be using them. the other two guys i work with bought there own ladders. along with numerous other things . I can't seem to get through to them that their using their tools to do his work. does anyone know whats deemed as what you supply to your job i what should be given from the employer. correct me if am wrong so i don't go barking up the wrong tree

Self employed or employed?

If you are employed your employer should provide everything save your own hand tools.

That includes all consumeables like drill bits and tape.

Trouble is if you already have employees using their own kit you are not going to get anywhere.

Try "losing" the ladders!

[arfur mo]

Self employed or employed?

If you are employed your employer should provide everything save your own hand tools.

That includes all consumeables like drill bits and tape.

Trouble is if you already have employees using their own kit you are not going to get anywhere.

Try "losing" the ladders!

crickey luggsey,

that brings back fond memories,

why was it on every firm i ever worked for, the stores guy would always never supply it, and they did on the odd occasion begrudgingly issue one reel of tape?

this happened even when you had 100 detectors and 5k meters of cable, only ever one reel sent, you would think they were his babies and had names .

one store manager stated why, his view was "you only use it to tie bundles of tube together - a totl waste of tape", and yes we did, but to cut several tubes all at once making the job faster and more accurate

i suppose with the passing of 1/2" galve frames, that 'objection' no longer applies

i'm off back to my Ovaltine and slippers now then

regs

alan

[diablo559]

well i supplied my own drills panasonic 24v sds and festool 15.6v along with lots of systainers to keep everything tidy.

I find for the money i spent i don't get to use them enough to justify the cost . was given a meter which to

me looked like a

[dunt]

the firm i sub from is the firm i use to work for (8 years). they supplied every last thing, even all snickers work wear.

the boss always said if it makes the job easier then get it.

even fully shelved every new van that arrived. its small things like that keep the employees happy IMO.