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oh I forgot it was ssaib or nacoss u were looking at I am not sure if he is got a feeling hes not

You might be interested in this which is from part of a topic we did a few months ago

Decided when I got this far in the posting to do a bit of research for you guys.....

I have just rang five top home insurance companies and asked:-

What are the burglar Alarm requirements for home insurance cover.....

Not one said they required installation by Nacoss Approved Installers

Most said required professional maintenence once a year ..again Nacoss was not a requirement.

One company said ...Only if you are in a high risk area is it compulsory to be professionally maintained.....again Nacoss not a requirement.

In most instances any alarm can be fitted ..Only one said Nacoss approved equipment in some instances but it depended on circumstances.

The companies called were:-Direct Line, A & A, Barclays, Churchill and Halifax

Most offered a discount if it was Nacoss approved and that was the only reason stated for using Nacoss.

So going on the replies from the Insurance Companies the answer to the question is:-

APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED - ITS UP TO THE CUSTOMER TO MAKE HIS CHOICE AND TAKE ANY RISKS THAT MAY BE INVOLVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER DEPENDING ON REQUIREMENTS.

Oh just to make it clear this was for house insurance............ As for companies and fire etc I know not.

....... but i do know fire alarms if not checked on the due date and a death occurs results in a manslaughter charge........ got this from Paul

Hope this of some use guys...... Have a good day!!!!

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Linda

[breff]

To get back on the original subject.....What sort of discount is your insurance company going to give you, 10% perhaps which will probably be about £30 a year, OK great but are they going to insist that you set the system for example if you are out your back garden doing some gardening. Discounts are good but we all know insurance companies look for a get out clause when its time for them to pay out. I work for an NSI Gold company but if I installed a system in your house as a private job would I be installing it to a lower quality?

If you arent bothered about insurance discount the best company to go for is a recommended company irrespective of what governing body they do or dont belong to.

[morph]

Breff right, spend the Discount on your ALARM , remeber its your house not the insurance company's, why should they tell you what you can and can't do in your own house.

If they dont like it change your insurance company.

Colin

[Nova-Security]

Peter James

In his last post is correct

3) The NSI are a "not for profit" organisation and are accountable to a board of governers who are made up from the police, insurance companies, security industry, government ministers etc.

Where as the SSAIB are a LTD company (and do make a profit) and as for Mike Lynskey he move he told me due to not full time post being offered.

Richard

NSI Silver going for gold one day

[Guest Pete T]

The only thing I don't like about the new NSi set up is that if you are a small company/sole trader NSi Silver, when you go up against a NSi Gold accreddited firm, what answer do you give when the customer asks "are you not as good as a Gold member!

Pete

I had to correct it it was difficult to read I could understand people making the mistake when it was nacoss but how can you get nsi round the wrong way (unless its a typo)

Pj

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I do think that having several levels of accreditation is a stupid idea.

[morph]

Or the question we always used to ask, "If it's not a 'for-profit' company why does NACOSS have a Commercial Manager?

Whats in a name?

The only way to tell if they are or are not a non proffit making body is to look at their accounts.

The SSAIB have a "Technical Manager" when was the last time he actualy updated any members on a technical issue, at least the NSI do send out regular updates.

The SSAIB have a "PR & Marketing Manager" so why do you still have to explain the difference between the NSI and SSAIB, because the Public are simply not aware of the SSAIB as they are of the NSI.

There is good and bad in both bodies, surely it is better to support both bodies rather than to dig up the mud of the past, both bodies are here to stay and its up to both of them and the installers to shape the future of industry and not let the Police and Insurance companies dictate what we do.

Colin.

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the Public are simply not aware of the SSAIB as they are of the NSI

Wrong Colin, the public are more aware of the ssaib, as oposed to the nsi.

NACOSS is the name the public are more aware of.

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NACOSS is the name the public are more aware of

Exactly Nacoss Gold is the stronger brand. Everyone has to remeber that Nacoss hasn't suddenly disapeared with the NSI branding, its still there and fighting.

So few people are aware of SSAIB/NSI/NACOSS that I dont think it matters anyway.

Any info end users get will be from a surveyor and the quote.

It does matter otherwise the public will continue to buy diy alarms and systems for £199 and think they meet the requirements of their insurers. It doesn't matter what body you are in until they all work at promoting the same line, then the public will continue not to know the benefits and the Pitfalls.

Colin.