Re: Check This Out/ Links To Pic

[trojan77horse]

http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/comm...554_4_30873.jpg

http://www.thesecurityinstaller.co.uk/comm...54_4_652663.jpg

not sure if previous post went through so here are the images of what i came across when i investigated a faulty alarm system

[billythebellbox]

& ?

[Guest anguscanplay]

thats shocking .... no date on the battery

[antinode]

Looks like an Aritech. How did all that get in there?!

[alterEGO]

Looks like an Aritech. How did all that get in there?!

mouse?

[trojan77horse]

i had another post explaining the pics but it didnt get on.

yeah, it was a mouse nest.

its a HKC control panel (good bog standard)

i got called out to fix a fault and when i opened the cover bits of the nest fell out and i was amazed to see it.

the mice came down from the ceiling into the electric board and along the top into the alarm panel.

there was no cable damage in the panel but when i lifted the floor boards above there was extensive nibbles.

i've been in the industry for over ten years and i've never seen that before.

when i told the customer that the fault was due to mice chewing the cable he looked at me as if i was a clueless aprentice trying to pull a fast one on him, but i was happy to see the horror in his face when he saw the place where his 'visitors' had been coming from over the last few years.

i removed a 1/4 tesco bag full of nest and mouse material from the panel and urged the owner to replace it as the back of the board was filthy,

[TSS]

i had another post explaining the pics but it didnt get on.

yeah, it was a mouse nest.

its a HKC control panel (good bog standard)

i got called out to fix a fault and when i opened the cover bits of the nest fell out and i was amazed to see it.

the mice came down from the ceiling into the electric board and along the top into the alarm panel.

there was no cable damage in the panel but when i lifted the floor boards above there was extensive nibbles.

i've been in the industry for over ten years and i've never seen that before.

when i told the customer that the fault was due to mice chewing the cable he looked at me as if i was a clueless aprentice trying to pull a fast one on him, but i was happy to see the horror in his face when he saw the place where his 'visitors' had been coming from over the last few years.

i removed a 1/4 tesco bag full of nest and mouse material from the panel and urged the owner to replace it as the back of the board was filthy,

Hope you put on your latex gloves (and washed your handse before the tea and biscuits....) Weils disease etc

[magpye]

Hope you put on your latex gloves (and washed your handse before the tea and biscuits....) Weils disease etc

Yes, wash your hands etc but Weils disease ( Leptospirosis ) is not a mouse problem.

The principal source of human infection is the rat but other sources include dogs, livestock and other wild animals.

[Guest Thunderfingers]

Animal exposure

One of the major concerns of people contacting us over the years is transmission from animals. In the developed world the direct exposure to water can often be minimised, but domestic pets can either bring in rodents or become infected themselves, and occupational exposure to rodents and other mammals (as part of garbage collection, pest control, construction or agriculture) is often hard to avoid. Distinction must be made between infection and carrier-state. An infected animal has an illness, and will either recover from it or die. A carrier has a colony of bacteria living in their body but shows no illness. They can remain like this for their entire lives and suffer no major adverse effects. Both are potential sources of infection, but clearly an animal that is not a carrier will eventually be safe, one way or another.

The dominant carriers are rats, but many other rodents and small mammals can take the role depending on the location, such as raccoons, squirrels, field mice, etc. - however rats are naturally incontinent and so spread far more urine than other species. It is usually safe to assume that across the developed world, 1 in 5 wild rats are carriers of pathogenic leptospires. Carrier-state rats emit bacteria in their urine, and this is distributed everywhere they go - normally the bacteria die once the urine dries out, but if it enters water the bacteria can remain viable for longer periods. Anyone handling wild rats should be aware that their urine, damp soil, bedding and nearby water are all potential sources of infection - and rat bites themselves can cause infection both by leptospira and other unrelated organisms.

A dead rat (wherever it may be) remains a risk for a short while, but only in terms of direct contact. Simple disinfection of the surface after disposal is all that is required. Once decomposition has advanced, acidity changes in the body will kill leptospires and of course they cannot survive on a dry skeleton. Similarly, domestic pets that are contaminated on their coats but not infected (such as for example after swimming) can be rinsed and dried as usual, and will be no significant risk thereafter. Dogs and farm livestock are usually vaccinated, cats rarely contract any infection.

A domestic or farm animal that is infected and ill will be a potential source of infection during the first few weeks of the disease, but only in terms of bites or contact with body fluids. Airborne and skin-to-skin transfer is almost impossible and has never been reported in the wild. During treatment the animal should be handled with care, and any body fluids cleaned away using disinfectant, but beyond that there are few risks. Animals should be kept apart to minimise the risk of direct infection, though again this is statistically rare.

[TSS]

Yes, wash your hands etc but Weils disease ( Leptospirosis ) is not a mouse problem.

The principal source of human infection is the rat but other sources include dogs, livestock and other wild animals.

and battery acid...

I always wash my hands now after every visit and before using the loo, eating/drinking etc

I've previously contracted weils disease whilst sailing and its not nice

If you fancy scaring yourself silly you can get some UV visible spray that you put on your hands, wash them and then see which bits you've missed under a UV lamp.

If you touch stuff it leaves a bit behind as a marker - just like a scene from CSI!