Usb Stick To Cd

[energysolutions]

Howdy,

As the title says can data/footage that has been downloaded from an X Vision XDVR2 (with USB back up only) like the link below (but without the DVD rewriter obviously) onto USB memory stick be somehow put onto CD/DVD???

Or even can it somehow be done if the DVR is connected via USB directly to a computer with a CD/DVD drive?

XDVR2

I ask because I`m tired of giving away memory sticks to the police (never to be seen again) if a CD/DVD would suffice!!!

Thanks in advance

Danny.

[james.wilson]

Once the file is on the thumb drive just plug that into your pc and burn it to cd/dvd as required.

[GDC]

That DVR has networking so you can transfer it to the PC and back it up to CD/DVD

[arfur mo]

worrying thought about this, for data to be evidence you need to make 2 cd's, signed and uniquely record the details in a log, so i wonder how the Police can enter your data as evidence from a stick

technically your biggest bar is the size of the file, 2gig on a stick ain't no way going to fit on a single 650 meg cdr disk, if tyou have nero 6 you can back up to cd and it increments across disks.

i use a 40 gig lappy drive in a usb caddy and zap any data to my laptop and then to dvd's if required.

regs

alan

[ilkie]

worrying thought about this, for data to be evidence you need to make 2 cd's, signed and uniquely record the details in a log, so i wonder how the Police can enter your data as evidence from a stick

technically your biggest bar is the size of the file, 2gig on a stick ain't no way going to fit on a single 650 meg cdr disk, if tyou have nero 6 you can back up to cd and it increments across disks.

i use a 40 gig lappy drive in a usb caddy and zap any data to my laptop and then to dvd's if required.

regs

alan

Sorry Alan,

Although the procedure you detail may be good practice, all video is evidence, whether it's on a USB stick, memory card or on any other media.

The problem is for the Police trying to handle it all with insufficient resource allocated to the job!

Ilkie

[xviz]

worrying thought about this, for data to be evidence you need to make 2 cd's, signed and uniquely record the details in a log, so i wonder how the Police can enter your data as evidence from a stick

technically your biggest bar is the size of the file, 2gig on a stick ain't no way going to fit on a single 650 meg cdr disk, if tyou have nero 6 you can back up to cd and it increments across disks.

i use a 40 gig lappy drive in a usb caddy and zap any data to my laptop and then to dvd's if required.

regs

alan

I've submitted video on dvds quite a few times now to the police. Most of the time, they just care that they can view it easily, and that they have time information displayed. I just used a dvd creation programme and converted the video files into a normal video dvd so they could put it in whatever dvd player they like. It's generally good practice to write full details of time, location and crime number on the DVD surface, so it doesn't get separated and they aren't sure what it is.

I always put it in an envelope with full details of the crime, crime number, location of crime and date/time information. Included within the envelope, I also put A4 pages with 2 frames printed per page, which are captures of the frames which best identify the individuals involved. I've found this is particularly effective, because they often can't be bothered viewing a dvd, but will have a quick flick through some A4 pages and with a bit of luck, recognise the individuals.

This has been adequate procedure in Glasgow, Scotland. Not sure if there are different procedures down south, where the legal system is different.

In Glasgow (this is the whole strathclyde police force therefore, but mainly glasgow), by late night time, you receive a crime number of around 3500-4000, with an associated date. I checked with a female PC one time, and she confirmed this is indeed the number of crimes on that given day (although I think one crime can generate multiple crime numbers for a variety of reasons). Given they're dealing with a lot of crimes never the less, whatever you can do to make things easy for the police will mean you're more likely to get the attention you desire.

[ilkie]

I've submitted video on dvds quite a few times now to the police. Most of the time, they just care that they can view it easily, and that they have time information displayed. I just used a dvd creation programme and converted the video files into a normal video dvd so they could put it in whatever dvd player they like. It's generally good practice to write full details of time, location and crime number on the DVD surface, so it doesn't get separated and they aren't sure what it is.

I always put it in an envelope with full details of the crime, crime number, location of crime and date/time information. Included within the envelope, I also put A4 pages with 2 frames printed per page, which are captures of the frames which best identify the individuals involved. I've found this is particularly effective, because they often can't be bothered viewing a dvd, but will have a quick flick through some A4 pages and with a bit of luck, recognise the individuals.

This has been adequate procedure in Glasgow, Scotland. Not sure if there are different procedures down south, where the legal system is different.

Thanks for the post, certainly food for thought.

As you say the law may well be different in England and Wales, and South of the Border transferring video formats without supplying the original would be frowned upon, although still be evidence.

In a major incident the possibility of doubt be cast on the veracity of the video evidence in court could be a problem.

In addition, you as the provider of the evidence reviewing and deciding what to offer the Police runs counter to standard investigatory procedure. (see PACE).

The only individual that should decide what is relevant is the Senior Investigating Officer (SIO). This is the reason that in many Control Rooms the CCTV operators are no longer allowed to check video for relevant evidence.

All they are allowed to do is to produce video from the selected camera(s) between the start and stop times as it up to the Police (and only the Police to decide what is relevant (as they are trained to do so to enable them to meet their legal obligations to seize best evidence)

However as you quite rightly point out the easier you make it, the more likely the Police will look at the video.

We even have some sites where the original data is provided on a DVD and a working copy is also provided on a VHS VCR for ease of use!

Just as a matter of interest, in the South the video prints that are made are also (in law) considered to be personal data and should be treated exactly the same as the original DVD, is this the same in Scotland?

Regards

Ilkie

[digitalwitness]

Hi Danny, to answer your question yes you can. When copying on your PC make sure you are viewing hidden files.

But to simplify the operation, I believe the USB on the XDVR2 supports an external CD or DVD writer skipping the need to copy from USB to CD.

You may be running an old firmware version, request the latest firmware from your distributor and this may aid the copying from USB to CD also.

Hope this helps.

[arfur mo]

Sorry Alan,

Although the procedure you detail may be good practice, all video is evidence, whether it's on a USB stick, memory card or on any other media.

The problem is for the Police trying to handle it all with insufficient resource allocated to the job!

Ilkie

agreed, but once on my drive, i can at least produce it in any common media format they need - even VHS or BETAMAX lol!

i know a lot is made of having 2 cds, identified marking as in the proper evidence kits - but all my clients who have been asked so far who have banged out a simple cd or called me in to work it for them. where they do manage on their own none have ever had the Police ask for it to be presented in such a concise way, either at the time or later.

i want the scumbags banged up as much as anyone else so i do very carefully train the person/s available at the time of handover and again on service calls.

in practice, the biggest problem to resolve is inevitably they move on up the chain/leave, or are simply not available when needed while others simply delegate the job to some other poor soul but do not train them. the new or temp 'agent' often has enough of a problem doing a date search using the manuals (if they still have them), the police are pressing so panic sets in.

i'm not entering into battle on the right sand wrongs, and yes i know the pertinent legal ramifications (so all the usual barrack room lawyers - please stand down ).

regs

alan