thinkjim Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 Hi Guys, Please can you offer me a bit of advice on the bosche DS820i pet friendly detectors please? I've had two quotes from two reputable alarm companies (NACOSS gold and they both have good reputations), but they are giving me conflicting information. I need my cat to have access to the kitchen area even when the alarm is set. Now the cat isn't allowed on the worktops, but I know that it jumps up on the them etc, when I am not around. In fact I caught her on top of one of the cupboards the other day. One company proposed using a Tritech DS820i pet immune detector in this room, and the other company said they wouldn't consider using pet immune detectors "...least of all in a kitchen". This is a monitored alarm, what do you guy's think? any advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks thinkjim
kensplace Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 Do you need a pir in the kitchen? Would have thought things like a oven cooling down or a cat knocking things off the worktable may trigger the pir. Not sure though, not fitted any in my kitchen, as they would trigger the sensors in the other rooms (and you could still have door/window sensors in the kitchen if needed) as they are highly unlikely to just break in and take things only from the kitchen..
thinkjim Posted October 4, 2008 Author Posted October 4, 2008 well ideally it would be better to have a PIR in this area because it has two relatively venerable windows (ground floor flat). If you were going to make entry you'd probably try through one of the kitchen windows, so that's the thinking behind it. The other company have recommended a door contact sensor (kitchen to hallway door, not outside). I just wondered what installers experiences are with these specific PIR/Microwave sensors. Searching the archive, people seem positive, but I just wanted feedback on their use in a kitchen....
james.wilson Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 Monitored as in police response. If so then id agree pet sensors and police response are a no no IMO. It will false alarm at some point. If you need protection in that area go for perimeter protection. IMHO pet tolerant sensors are a bodge and still have issues, granted they are better than they were but as you can tell im not a fan of any of em. James securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
Guest anguscanplay Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 Monitored as in police response.If so then id agree pet sensors and police response are a no no IMO. It will false alarm at some point. If you need protection in that area go for perimeter protection. and an impact detector wont? pet sensors - don`t worry about them O/P, let the installer do his job - if he gets it wrong then don`t pay him Angus (NSI gold too)
james.wilson Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 james (NSI Gold) Id avoid and put the vibros on their own confirm group. Looks like its the same as your quotes OP. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
Chorlton Posted October 4, 2008 Posted October 4, 2008 Get a 3rd quote thinkjim Chorlton (MFI Platinum)
Adi Posted October 5, 2008 Posted October 5, 2008 If its a quality pet immune i see no problem and have used bosch an excellent detector BIRC the top layer of the pir is not immune. Adi (B&Q special) I really can't be ar**** with it anymore.
satsuma01 Posted October 5, 2008 Posted October 5, 2008 If its a quality pet immune i see no problem and have used bosch an excellent detector BIRC the top layer of the pir is not immune.Adi (B&Q special) I have to agree re the pet sensors, they are not a guarantee that it wont trip, even if the pir is set to very low sensitivity, Door and windows contacts on a confirmed is the way to go. Satsuma (NICEIC PROFESSIONAL) "If you carry your childhood with you, you never become old. Why rush to end life when happiness is in the blissfulness of childhood innocence.""We all die, the goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will." 07475071344
Guest anguscanplay Posted October 5, 2008 Posted October 5, 2008 Door and windows contacts on a confirmed is the way to go.Satsuma (NICEIC PROFESSIONAL) hmm, bit of a 80`s vibe going on here I think, moves with the times
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