wizard Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 hi guys, i posted here some time ago about an alarm kit i bought, after thinking about it i had a pro installer fit it for me, i now have some probs and wanted to ask your advice, my bell box is dead, i noticed i had no leds flashing and then tried to do a manual strobe test , nothing happened, i then tried a siren test and nothing again, the alarm sets and triggers but only internal sirens sound, any ideas guys ? any help is much appreciated
Chorlton Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Hello Wizard As this is your 1st post I assume you re-registered because you couldn't remember your username and/or password. No worries but remind us, what make of panel and bell box are you talking about and when was it fitted? C.
Guest anguscanplay Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 anybody been working in the house recently? carpet fitters, joiners, plumbers?
wizard Posted October 18, 2008 Author Posted October 18, 2008 hi again guys and thanks, the panel and bell box are both texecom, panel is veritas excel and bell box is an odyssey had flooring panels laid in my attic a little while back ? wonder if the guy may have pinched or cut the cable going to bell ? will check first thing !
Rulland Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Hi, if any cables etc had been damaged whilst working in the loft the system would have let you know!, assuming it had been installed correctly!. The external sounder usually has 4-8 connections,any of which being severed would result in some form of indication from the panel or the sounder itself.
wizard Posted October 20, 2008 Author Posted October 20, 2008 hi again guys, the cable in the attic had a screw going through it, blew the fuse on the main panel, turned off mains, cut wires completely, re spliced all cables and fitted new fuse, working fine again now ! i need more help though i had the guy install a sound bomb too and also a text and speech dialler neither of these are working ! the sound bomb only has 2 wires coming from it, red and black, red going to the strobe output for the bell box i noticed ? doesnt seem right ? and also the dialler is not working, it calls me fine on test but when alarm goes off i get nothing, does not seem to trigger at all ? can anyone shed any light for me ? i dont have too much faith in the fitter anymore !
james.wilson Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 strobe could be right for the soundbomb, depending on if you want the internal to latch (if the strobe latches) but if it stops with the bell timer then he may have used the strobe output as it was loaded less. But re your dialler issue sounds like the polarity isnt right or the trigger, either way id get him back. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
arfur mo Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 the sound bomb would normally be wired to the siren output likely shown as bell + and bell - on the pcb. wiring to the strobe output imo is not a good idea, strobe might be set not to time out so soundbomb will keep going. on some panels would cause it to sound constantly until reset after an alarm not just unset after one. could also operate in engineer mode so again not best practice. as for the dialer check the connections through, remember if wired to the external siren connections or the proper transmitter connections it will not trigger unless the alarm is fully armed (bleeper stops on exit) then triggered - wait enough time for the call to be made. if the panel will not trigger it make sure the line is present to the dialler. theres other things but dinners up regs alan If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
james.wilson Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 just to add. If the strobe isnt latching and follows the bell then its fine. If it does latch and you dont want your internal sounder to stop with the bell timer (ie you have a 5 min external bell time etc) than again thats fine. If the strobe has its own timer again thats fine lol I dont agree that its not best practice as it depends on your panel and how its programmed. But i would agree that a latching internal sounder is not a great idea. But if your bell output is loaded (ie adding the soundboomb will overload it) or the panel is set for scb mode then (again depeding on panel) it may have been the only choice securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
lawandorder Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 hi again guys,the cable in the attic had a screw going through it, blew the fuse on the main panel, turned off mains, cut wires completely, re spliced all cables and fitted new fuse, working fine again now ! i need more help though i had the guy install a sound bomb too and also a text and speech dialler neither of these are working ! the sound bomb only has 2 wires coming from it, red and black, red going to the strobe output for the bell box i noticed ? doesnt seem right ? and also the dialler is not working, it calls me fine on test but when alarm goes off i get nothing, does not seem to trigger at all ? can anyone shed any light for me ? i dont have too much faith in the fitter anymore ! Congratulations on fixing your sounder, not clear what method you used to join the cable but it is advisabel to use either a proper junction box or solder then insulate the connections. Sound bombs do only have 2 wires coming from them red should be positive and black negative, the strobe output is a negative output so on that basis it is connected wrongly. Personally I would connect red to the positive bell hold off (terminal A in the control panel I think but check) and the black to the bell switched negative (again check but I think it's terminal B)
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