breff Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 1. You would probably have to tell the engineer 2. You can just change the panel and keypad 3. Haven't read it, sorry, although it depends on the engineer and the company. OP= original poster, ie the person who started the Topic (you in this case) The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not)
Guest RJBsec Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 Thanks for the comments and advice which has allayed many of my fears. A couple of final questions: 1. the system has not been serviced for a while. Is this type of problem something you would expect to be detected via a normal service, or would i have tell the engineer specifically about it so he can do the detailed checks to diagnose and solve it. 2. i am considering changing and upgrading the control panel. Would I have to change my PIRs etc as well or would any new panel I buy be compatible with them? 3. There are some guidleines and advice on this site for DIY servicing. Are these guideleine the standard actions that you would expect any engineer in the industry to follow, or does it depend on the engineer and company. Finally.. what does OP mean.. i cannot for the life of me think of anything appropriate.. 1. Possibly, but you would be silly not to tell him. 2. No, they would be okay as long as they are functioning and reliable. 3. Depends on engineer and company. op means 'original poster' i.e. the person who started the thread - you. 2.
lawandorder Posted February 25, 2009 Posted February 25, 2009 1. Possibly, but you would be silly not to tell him.2. No, they would be okay as long as they are functioning and reliable. 3. Depends on engineer and company. op means 'original poster' i.e. the person who started the thread - you. 2. You should most certainly tell the engineer about the intermittent problem you are experinceing, if the problem is caused by a faulty battery then that really should be picked up during a routine service but an intermiitent tamper circuit wouldn't always be detected without some slightly more in depth testing.
thedcman Posted March 1, 2009 Author Posted March 1, 2009 Howdy, I went to the SSAIB website and got a list of accredited firms within 50 miles of me. I then decided to do a Companies House Webcheck on the ones I was going to ring. I was shocked to find out that out of the first 10 SSAIB listed accredited firms only 3 existed as real companies and the other 7 did not exist according to Companies House records. Out of the 7 supposedly non-existent ones, about 5 of them had listings in YELL and yellow pages as SSAIB accredited firms. SSAIB
james.wilson Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 companies house will only show limithed companies mate. A lot of installers are not limited companies so will not show up. Also you asking things like you did would make me and it would appear them think that you were asking what i would do, so you could do it yourself. Might be the reason yougot the answers you did. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
magpye Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 All said that it was probably the battery that was causing the problem .... so it seems we know what we are saying then. Someone told me I was ignorant and apathetic, I don't know what that means, nor do I care.
hpotter Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 companies house will only show limithed companies mate.A lot of installers are not limited companies so will not show up. And a lot are ltd co's trading as xyz.
thedcman Posted March 1, 2009 Author Posted March 1, 2009 It seems to me then that the SSAIB, NACOSS, NSI etc should then operate a similar scheme to the gas installers CORGI and issue an accreditation number to the individual, not the company, whhc the public can then check to confirm that the enineer who turns up is fully qualified or not. If a member of the public looks in the the yellow pages and it gives a listing saying the company is SSAIB acrredited, then I think they would expect to see that company regsitered somewhere officially. I thought all companies limited or otherwise had to be regsitered at companies house in England. Anyway, can anyone tell me where I can get a battery for my system, please. .
lawandorder Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 It seems to me then that the SSAIB, NACOSS, NSI etc should then operate a similar scheme to the gas installers CORGI and issue an accreditation number to the individual, not the company, whhc the public can then check to confirm that the enineer who turns up is fully qualified or not.If a member of the public looks in the the yellow pages and it gives a listing saying the company is SSAIB acrredited, then I think they would expect to see that company regsitered somewhere officially. I thought all companies limited or otherwise had to be regsitered at companies house in England. Anyway, can anyone tell me where I can get a battery for my system, please. . You could start trading as an alarm installer, window cleaner or pretty much anything else for that matter without registering with companies house. I traded for years as a sole trader and there is no requirement to register with companies house. For the pruposes of credit checking a sole trader can be vetted in the same way as an individual, ie, using Experian or Equifax. Personally I am grateful that the alarm industry isn't policed in the same way as the gas industry by individual registration, at the end of the day it is highly unlikely that a dodgy alarm installation is ever going to directly kill anybody. To be honest I am struggling to see your concern, if you pay a company/individual to fix your problem (ie, you tell him what is wrong and contract him to repair it as opposed to just saying you want a service) and he fails to do what he has been contracted to do you have legal options. I can also assure you that the requirements for joining both the SSAIB and NSI are strict and rigourously maintained, individual memebers of staff need not be qualified (on paper at least) but if the company fails to meet the required standards as regards engineering you can take it up with the respective inspectorate. You should be able to get a battery from the site hosts, Screwfix, Maplins and numerous other places. My preference is Yuasa though otheres may favour other brands.
breff Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 Anyway, can anyone tell me where I can get a battery for my system, please. . Try Maplins The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not)
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