whistle Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 RS50's and 100's must be two of the hardest panels i have ever had to program..
lawandorder Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 They were nothing like a 9100, c##p springs to mind. Well to be fair I only said they were similar in spec (ie, ammount of zones and features). Having said that the 100 didn't have an event log like the 9100 or an NVM but I found them easy to program, having said that we did work on them most of the time.
DirectFS Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Ye Gads yes. Difficult panels - definitely the RS50, RS100, RS125 - Regalsafe, wasn't it the 100 that was programmed using a cardboard template to tell you what the led grid actually meant...... Who remembers the old Tunstall CPA6 (or Munford and White if you're really old)......or the Castle Omega 5 - how many revisions of firmware did that have..... Mind, the Santronic 9500 was a bag of fu...n too - cyclical menus, and you could lay odds that you'd miss the one you wanted. The thing that's always made me laugh since the advent of "texting up" circuits on LCD panels is the number of "dinning" rooms I've come across - presumably very loud rooms, where not much eating takes place......either that or its the room in the house where the old boy gets lucky once in a year or so....... Hmm. Sometimes the industry really does seem broken these days. RS50's and 100's must be two of the hardest panels i have ever had to program.. As everyone has said - it is a 9100 in Modern Alarms clothing. It had a different front cover, and different coloured keys to the mainstream 9100 - green and brown I seem to remember - as opposed to the Orange and Brown of the "real" 9100. They're easy enough to default if you can get hold of a manual - but pretty well any engineer over the age of late thirties should be able to do that one in his head. The reason that the sub couldn't change the code themselves on the 9100 was twofold - no room on the ROM for the customer option, and two, wasn't financial, but security - it was felt if an engineer had to change the code it would be more secure, as customers could not inadvertently change the code and forget it. That said, if I had a quid for every 9100 or MX48 I've seen that had the engineer code written on it somewhere, or even the user code...... As people have also said, depending upon your need, change it for something newer - pretty well any panel on the market will do it, and pet friendly PIRs are ten a penny too these days. Bill. Hi to all I have a very old ATG MX48 alarm system but need to replace the panel as OH entered wrong code and engineer who fitted it is dead, so we have no engineer code and no living engineer I've contacted knows anything about such an antiquated system everything is there and was working, just need to replace the actual panel, possibly add a keypad as the MX is all in one, and change 4 sensors for pet enabled sensors any ideas on easy fit systems that can accomadate 4 sensors and 2 PA s and with the ability to add on later if ness, EB2 Bill Accord Fire & Security Services Ltd. www.accordfire.co.uk ~ TEL: 0845 474 5839
Guest RJBsec Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Who remembers the old Tunstall CPA6 (or Munford and White if you're really old)......or the Castle Omega 5 - how many revisions of firmware did that have.....Mind, the Santronic 9500 was a bag of fu...n too - cyclical menus, and you could lay odds that you'd miss the one you wanted. Remember them all - inc the 2 zone LEC's for the M&W CPA6 The reason that the sub couldn't change the code themselves on the 9100 ...... wasn't financial, but security - Pull the other one!
lawandorder Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Remember them all - inc the 2 zone LEC's for the M&W CPA6 Pull the other one! I remember the CPA6, I remeber being amazed at the fact that it was the first panel I had seen where the entry/exit time could actually be programmed to the second. Prior to that you just had a pot which you twisted with a credriver until you got it about right. There were various versions of software, Honeywell had their own, which was used on Iceland installtions.
magpye Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Remember them all - inc the 2 zone LEC's for the M&W CPA6 Pull the other one! They were ZEMs (Zone Expansion Modules) not LECs Someone told me I was ignorant and apathetic, I don't know what that means, nor do I care.
Guest old-hand Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 They were ZEMs (Zone Expansion Modules) not LECs QFA
Guest RJBsec Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 They were ZEMs (Zone Expansion Modules) not LECs Stands corrected
lawandorder Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Stands corrected The CPA6 was also my first foray into eol wiring, bit before it's time.
hpotter Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 The CPA6 was also my first foray into eol wiring, bit before it's time. Me too.. It was fun fault finding on them. Steep learning curve. (I was still servicing some systems with end of line batts at the time n thought "this is the future").
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