timmo Posted May 15, 2009 Posted May 15, 2009 Hello all, just a query regarding my new galaxy g2-20 panel... i have got a texecom smoke detector to attach to the system but i'm not sure how to go on with the resistors/wiring, as the detector doesn't have tamper connections - it only has the usual 12v and 0v plus two alarm/comm contacts. How would i wire resistors into it in order for the panel to recognise it??? Oh, also, any suggestions for some sort of auto-dialler for the G2-20? I really want something that uses gprs/gsm as my hardwired bt line isn't exactly secure. The wife won't have monitored (yet anyhow - I'm working on it, would love to have it!) so what would my options be in this situation? The system was put in by myself (to a good standard) so it's not under a company/engineer/service contract... ALL SUGGESTIONS GREATLY APPRECIATED, THANKS.
Guest old-hand Posted May 15, 2009 Posted May 15, 2009 Hello all, just a query regarding my new galaxy g2-20 panel... i have got a texecom smoke detector to attach to the system but i'm not sure how to go on with the resistors/wiring, as the detector doesn't have tamper connections - it only has the usual 12v and 0v plus two alarm/comm contacts. How would i wire resistors into it in order for the panel to recognise it???Oh, also, any suggestions for some sort of auto-dialler for the G2-20? I really want something that uses gprs/gsm as my hardwired bt line isn't exactly secure. The wife won't have monitored (yet anyhow - I'm working on it, would love to have it!) so what would my options be in this situation? The system was put in by myself (to a good standard) so it's not under a company/engineer/service contract... ALL SUGGESTIONS GREATLY APPRECIATED, THANKS. Wire the smoke EOL as per other devices using a piece of connector strip to make final connection. The manual supplied will show this method. Why use a auto dialler, oh yes you mention a insecure phone line............G2-20 does have sms facility, of course you know this. GD-06-SMS module might help, with PSYG Sim card. Search the site sponsor`s for prices. You suggest the system is fitted to a "good" standard. How would you define that? Without going into too much detail, please define a "good" standard. As a "professional" I and my fellow "professionals" would love to have an understanding of someone who fits an item to no regulation. Then says it is a good installation. ? I`ll leave you to answer, before I comment any further.
soulstyle Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 You suggest the system is fitted to a "good" standard. How would you define that?Without going into too much detail, please define a "good" standard. As a "professional" I and my fellow "professionals" would love to have an understanding of someone who fits an item to no regulation. Then says it is a good installation. ? I`ll leave you to answer, before I comment any further. Would love Timmo to have replied. However i was wondering what makes somebody a professional? I'm not taking the piss oxo, just interested in what you view a professional as.
Chorlton Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional see above, from which the below is taken: Trades In narrow usage, not all expertise is considered a profession. Although sometimes referred to as professions, such occupations as skilled construction work are more generally thought of as trades or crafts. The completion of an apprenticeship is generally associated with skilled labor or trades such as carpenter, electrician, plumber, bricklayer and other similar occupations. A related (though not always valid) distinction would be that a professional does mainly mental or administrative work, as opposed to engaging in physical work. Many companies include the word professional in their company name to signify the quality of their workmanship or service.
breff Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 Hello all, just a query regarding my new galaxy g2-20 panel... i have got a texecom smoke detector to attach to the system but i'm not sure how to go on with the resistors/wiring, as the detector doesn't have tamper connections - it only has the usual 12v and 0v plus two alarm/comm contacts. How would i wire resistors into it in order for the panel to recognise it???Oh, also, any suggestions for some sort of auto-dialler for the G2-20? I really want something that uses gprs/gsm as my hardwired bt line isn't exactly secure. The wife won't have monitored (yet anyhow - I'm working on it, would love to have it!) so what would my options be in this situation? The system was put in by myself (to a good standard) so it's not under a company/engineer/service contract... ALL SUGGESTIONS GREATLY APPRECIATED, THANKS. Wire as this drawing The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not)
Guest old-hand Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 Would love Timmo to have replied. However i was wondering what makes somebody a professional? I'm not taking the piss oxo, just interested in what you view a professional as. As C has mentioned above. I like this piece "Expert and specialised knowledge in field which one is practising professionally" How would you deem yourself in what you practise as a means of supporting yourself/family?
timmo Posted May 17, 2009 Author Posted May 17, 2009 Wire as this drawing Thanks for your help, much appreciated!
breff Posted May 17, 2009 Posted May 17, 2009 Thanks for your help, much appreciated! No probs The opinions I express are mine and are usually correct! (Except when I'm wrong)(which I'm not)
kensplace Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 My view on fitting something to a good standard, as a person not currently in that trade would be as follows. I would only attempt it if I felt confident, very confident I knew what I was doing. It would be thourougly tested. It would not be a rats nest. It would be carefully done. It would have a lifetime of experience in similar things behind it. It would done to a higher standard than the vast majority of paid professionals would do it. It would probably look messy, as Im into safety not cosmetics. It would be tested to proved it works. It would be tested again. It would be designed and fitted to last, and would use build quaility and componants above and beyond the minimum needed. I would go for max protection I could afford, not the min the law says I can install to make a profit. Your average professional would probably have been stumped by questions I have asked, so I learned myself how to proceed. It would not always go by the rule book as sometimes the rule book is wrong, usually its not, but one size does not alway fit all. It would never put anyone in danger, to the bets of my ability - which is a darn site better than the average punter who does not care about my safety or my families safety, just their wage packet. I would not install new stuff, only aged stuff that has proven itself (same as nasa policy) If out of my depth, I wont do it. If not sure, I will ask. I will check and automatically disbelieve what I am told when I ask, you cant always believe what you read on the net, people sometimes lie, or have vested interests. gut feeling is usually right. Part P will kill someone one day. I wont kill someone through electrical related fire/fault- and if I do - it will be through something no one could ever have anticipated. And before you ask, no I wont test it with a top end fluke - visual inspection and a multimeter will do me, a scope if needed for delicate work. Plus real world testing, does it do whats its meant to.... Documentation and notes displayed so people know of any possible dangers. Thats me after far to much to drink, Im sure sober the list would be better... I have seen pro work, and well, lets say, best left unsaid in a public area. There are probably a load of mistakes in this post, but Im well p'''''sed, but I would not do a installation in this state....
james.wilson Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 ken, do you have anything useful to add other than to try and wind up the pro members here, or anyone else? I do take exception to some of your comments, yes there are awful pro installers out there but you cant really call them pro's, just as with everything. I would strongly advise against posting strong comments when you have had a few beers even at 6:10 am if you see m y point James securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
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