Parking Congestion Charges And Fines

[SUBS]

Forget where it was but probs in Brimasingham. A little gang going out to cause these accidents and make huge claims. One gang got nicked, but as you know when one lot does it the others do too.

Fitted auto gates to a place in east London specialising in crash repair and insurance claims. Sod having the repairs done there.

It was obvious there was something not quite right.

Off topic i know, but dyou mean this place ? lol

“Its a worthless pile of dog mess and I'm ashamed to even call it a city. Why don't we just nuke it and use the resulting crater to harbour the mess for the rest of the "civilised" world”

~ Gordon Brown on Birmingham

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Birmingham

[norman]

lol...

The winner of "Miss. Birmingham 2007" stunned the judges and was later branded "The Most Beautiful Woman Ever To Have Come Out of Birmingham".....

[SUBS]

lol...

The winner of "Miss. Birmingham 2007" stunned the judges and was later branded "The Most Beautiful Woman Ever To Have Come Out of Birmingham".....

Not fair !

A lot of birmingham women are probably pretty. lol

[alterEGO]

lol...

The winner of "Miss. Birmingham 2007" stunned the judges and was later branded "The Most Beautiful Woman Ever To Have Come Out of Birmingham".....

lol

[DachaSecurity]

some time ago when our dear Ken was in charge, i wrote and asked about setting up a DD, so if i went into the zone i get charged accordingly - simple you would think. but i was told they could not do that at this time, and were not even considering it.

so i replied in that case can i pay an amount up front and you draw from it as the charges required, i would beresponsible to keep it in credit, the mayors office could also earn some interest.

now get this i was phoned by a lady who was head of some mayoral department and told "we, can't do that as we are not here to make a profit" and without a single falter in the voice, boy that was some acting performance.

anyway, a discussion on a PTW forum i decided to float an idea and also air it here

parking fines (hated by most even when you deseved it))brought the beginning of the end of our 'innocent until proved guilty' corner post in British law, now the law has been eroded so you are guilty until proven innocent - or can't be ignored anymore.

so as things stand now -:

and as i have done, legally bought a ticket, displayed it properly and i'm within my paid for time when i returned, but the numpty or corrupt parking control attendant has still issued me a fine. i had no screen PCN, so i'm unaware and did not know anything until the now extra costs fine rolled onto my door mat.

i appealed, sent the original screen ticket explained no PCN, and i was still turned down. so now i take a photo of the screen with my payment ticket on, and again in close up to show the time & date every time i park, and every time i leave to show no PCN tickets attached, not had to test it worked yer but what else can you do?

bad enough and obviously unjust in anyone's language, like most i am basically an honest person, if i have parked illegally and get popped, well it was my choice and i stump up (and of course have a good cussto cleans the blood), but having been done for no legal reason, i really get as angry as the next person.

ok, if you fight then the charges are ramped up to incredible levels in a very short period of time, obviously to deter you from taking the risk of loosing. late payment increases are not differed until your appeal is heard and/or sorted either way, but carry on increasing until paid or stuck.

you will also loose time to attend appeals, even court action which you may or may not win. so you could be out hundreds even thousands of pounds, have the embarrassment of bailiffs trying to recover your car off your drive at the end of it all if your stubborn.

so as it stands current law is leaving you liable to much higher payments than you need pay for the PCN/CC ofence, and the insulting indignity of being considered as a liar by default thrown in, until you can prove you are not lying on their terms.

with the congestion charges, if i pay then for some reason cancel and do not go into the zone there is no refund

so not that i love the idea to bits, and it should not be necessary in a just society, but lets deal with real -:

to protect ourselves from such unjust charges, if we could i would sign up for direct debit, then the following advantages are available -:

1) if i am rightly fined for illegal parking, it is paid promptly and at the cheapest possible 'discount' rate.

2) i can't get done for not paying the congestion charge, or not paying within time.

3) i won't accidentally pay the charge when it is suspended, perhaps for a road works/accident issues (rare i know).

4) i automatically pay for the time i've parked for, not for the longer time i had estimated i needed to park for.

5) no need to worry about topping up, just not overstay the maximum time.

6) no need to make phone call, they could even text me when a charge/fine is made.

7) if i am charged/fined incorrectly, i can appeal without incurring extra late payment costs

8) no ticket to show to thieves i'm not likely to be back for several hours

9) if fined in error i can fight it without the added risk of suffering late payment top ups.

we all believe we have control over our personal finances so just the idea of paying fines this way will seem repugnant to many at 1st glance, but considering we already pay by DD on phones, mortgage, council charges etc as ask what can be the problem or critasm for paying fines this way, especially as it is likely to save you a lot of money, as long as it s not at some stage forced on the individual that is?

regs

Arfur Mo

I feel very strongly against giving TFL any money in advance. They make far far too much out of us as it is.

With parking tickets - simple - if you are innocent, let them take you to court. You must though raise this request within the first 14 days so your will always have the opportunity to pay the discounted rate if you lose. I have yet to be taken to court for any tickets.

With the congestion charging changes that are happening when the western extension is scrapped at the end of the year, single vehicle account are allowed to be set up, rather than the minimum of ten. This will prevent the forget to pay problem.

But please please do not give these morons at TFL any ideas of paying money to them. I want to earn the interest on my money, not them!

[arfur mo]

I feel very strongly against giving TFL any money in advance. They make far far too much out of us as it is.

With parking tickets - simple - if you are innocent, let them take you to court. You must though raise this request within the first 14 days so your will always have the opportunity to pay the discounted rate if you lose. I have yet to be taken to court for any tickets.

With the congestion charging changes that are happening when the western extension is scrapped at the end of the year, single vehicle account are allowed to be set up, rather than the minimum of ten. This will prevent the forget to pay problem.

But please please do not give these morons at TFL any ideas of paying money to them. I want to earn the interest on my money, not them!

thanks for the comments,

personally i tend to pay via text as soon as i go in, but on occasions perhaps due to a road accident you need to divert, or you get distracted. i'd rather them take a tenner than charge me the max when i get the reminder simply for a human error, the notice which aways arrives way after the time limit - especially when the numpty covering postman puts my letters through the wrong bleeding door, and the recipient just 'sits' on it for a week .

if not for you, then you don't have to sign up for it, but for me it takes the chore and the risks out of it.

with the availability of todays technology i'd like to see (with CC) an email or text sent say 4 hours before the price goes up, and again 4 hours before your liable to what is a very punitive and unjustified level of fine (under what logic does the fine ever reduce congestion?).

i'd happily pay for that 'text service' as i then have a better chance of proving where i am/was if my numberplate is cloned. so if it helps you by knowing about the CC 'intrusion', it will also reduce them from getting so much in fines.

Arfur.