Cubit Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Getting back on track then, well, an attempt to. Can anyone tell me the significant difference between these two statements? A Guaranteed Police Response to your Monitored Alarm The Police will no longer respond to a bell-only alarm, unless there is additional evidence of a crime being committed. The Police will respond to a monitored alarm which qualifies for Police response. Qualifying for Police Response Many police forces will not attend alarms from non-monitored systems unless there's also first hand evidence of a crime. The police will attend an alarm signal routed via an Alarm Receiving Centre, from a monitored alarm that qualifies for Police Response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAS Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Getting back on track then, well, an attempt to. Can anyone tell me the significant difference between these two statements? A Guaranteed Police Response to your Monitored Alarm The Police will no longer respond to a bell-only alarm, unless there is additional evidence of a crime being committed. The Police will respond to a monitored alarm which qualifies for Police response. Qualifying for Police Response Many police forces will not attend alarms from non-monitored systems unless there's also first hand evidence of a crime. The police will attend an alarm signal routed via an Alarm Receiving Centre, from a monitored alarm that qualifies for Police Response. Interesting first statement, is that via Direct Response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 afaik you cant guarantee the police will respond Id guess the first quote was from dr, the second from an acpo policy? But in short i dont think acpo aloow anyone to infer or guarantee a police response or approval etc by the police. Again pete will know that reg etc better than me securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 afaik you cant guarantee the police will respond Id guess the first quote was from dr, the second from an acpo policy? But in short i dont think acpo aloow anyone to infer or guarantee a police response or approval etc by the police. Again pete will know that reg etc better than me The operative word is WILL. That is a definitive, a given. non optional. In essence, a guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Getting back on track then, well, an attempt to. Can anyone tell me the significant difference between these two statements? A Guaranteed Police Response to your Monitored Alarm The Police will no longer respond to a bell-only alarm, unless there is additional evidence of a crime being committed. The Police will respond to a monitored alarm which qualifies for Police response. Qualifying for Police Response Many police forces will not attend alarms from non-monitored systems unless there's also first hand evidence of a crime. The police will attend an alarm signal routed via an Alarm Receiving Centre, from a monitored alarm that qualifies for Police Response. Guaranteed Police response insinuates that the Police have to respond, Qualifying for Police response is saying that The Police have no reason not to. Qualifying is right there is no guarantee the Police will attend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 The operative word is WILL. That is a definitive, a given. non optional. In essence, a guarantee. Yes but the missing word in the 1st statement is qualifies, there is no guarantee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Yes but the missing word in the 1st statement is qualifies, there is no guarantee Nope, 'qualifies' is clearly stated. as is 'will'. in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 It does say qualify Peter or are you referring elsewhere? You miss my point, once Police response is lost you have no Police response anymore this is why the Qualify statement is correct, guaranteed insinuates that it is guaranteed regardless of whether you still qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 You miss my point, once Police response is lost you have no Police response anymore this is why the Qualify statement is correct, guaranteed insinuates that it is guaranteed regardless of whether you still qualify No, i disagree Pete. You have introduced conditions that are not relevant to the statements in their current form. You are looking at it from a trade insiders pov. Look at both statements from a member of public perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 cubit it maybe but again afaik an installer cant use those words. as im assuming this is a setup etc its probably from our website is it? if it is its still wrong and it needs changing. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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