norman Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 clarify on what iirc?Arfurthe bit about alarm companied doubling r+m at least once per annum etc etc etc, find it hard to beleive Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
PeterJames Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 http://www.norbain.co.uk/downloads/articles/BS8418_IndArt.pdf - surely you can guarantee a police response if it is a confirmed signal (audi,viseo or two detectors)? Just a quick google gives a list of pages that refer to guaranteed police response not only from alarm companies other than DR but several police forces quoting APCO policy. http://www.google.co.uk/#q=guaranteed+police+response&hl=en&cr=countryUK|countryGB&tbs=ctr:countryUK|countryGB&ei=Je4cTOeDD4mZOKHR4bkM&start=0&sa=N&fp=ef0ed3a35c3e8259 You can only guarantee calling them, its upto them to if they want to go, of course its in their interest to go mostly and its up to us to keep it that way you could save time, just click on member links. Andy is been ingenious, the quotes been posted are ALL culled from the websites of people currently active on TSI, their friends or "partner" companies, some links are public knowledge some are "specials" and some don`t know we know who they are but we do (if that makes sense). Everyones guilty of it. Ive found it now
arfur mo Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Then it really is down to a strange interpretation to Level 1 guaranteed police response - looking at it another way though,if the police say that they will not or are unable to turnout (despite your system meeting the requirements set down with the regs and standard) then that in itself is a police response is it not?? i like you thinking, bit like i the strife telling my grandson to wash his hands, complains to me she got no response, yet i definitely heard him say "F off woman - i'm to busy" myself Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
norman Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 nice. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
PeterJames Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Then it really is down to a strange interpretation to Level 1 guaranteed police response - looking at it another way though,if the police say that they will not or are unable to turnout (despite your system meeting the requirements set down with the regs and standard) then that in itself is a police response is it not?? Guarantee The situation in which a surety is most typically required is when the ability of the primary obligor or principal to perform its obligations under a contract is in question, or when there is some public or private interest which requires protection from the consequences of the principal's default or delinquency. In most common law jurisdictions, a contract of suretyship is subject to the statute of frauds (or its equivalent local laws) and is only enforceable if recorded in writing and signed by the surety and the principal The rules say they should attend, but only the Police have the control of their resources and not the alarm company therefore the alarm company cannot gtee anything will happen It a bit like saying if your house is on fire dial 999 Fire brigade are guaranteed to put it out before the property is completely burnt down, of course this depends on many things outside the Fire brigades control, the main main factor on how quick they get there.
norman Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 lets talk rozzer response times. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
PeterJames Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 7 minutes is the quickest, had a ten minutes very recently, but on average under 20 minutes. About 20 years ago when I was an engineer, a customer had pressed a panic button at a doctors surgery accidentally, the button was pressed at 11.00 in the morning, that evening and when they come to set the alarm that night found they couldn't so called the engineer out, which happened to be me. As I arrived so did the Police, claiming they had been under resourced all day, good job it wasnt a real hold up.
PeterJames Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 They can guarantee a response though - Response - 1. The act of responding. 2. A reply or an answer. The brigade reference applies equally to the police call - time is of the essence in both instances and in the same way as the brigade turning out does not guarantee that they will put the fire out (in fact,if they can contain it and there is no life at risk then they are likely to remain outside),then the police cannot guarantee that they'll catch the baddies when (and if) they arrive within a suitable time. Its still the Police responding, and the alarm company guaranteeing, not the other way round which is what it implies.
Cubit Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Lets not forget those who say the bizzies WILL attend/respond.
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