New Home Cctv

[A-G]

From their site:

Can you install the equipment?

The short answer is no, but don`t worry. If you really must have somebody install the CCTV equipment for you then any competent electrician can do the job. There is absolutely no specific technical knowledge needed, all they are doing is mounting the cameras and sorting out the cable runs back to your DVR

Yeah, right.

[arfur mo]

You actually got some - first reply.

And nothing so far, including your only response, suggests your post was nothing more than google linking.

There you go again with the provocation!!

Everyone out of step except you.

errm! i meant i was one of the nutters but everybody is !!!

Has suggested, have you actually looked up the kit and company in question??

Your replies certainly suggest not.

like i said (perhaps read my earlier comment properly) had a quick scan of the cctv gear it brought up, like i said seems common enough, imo nothing special, bit like going to IFSEC imo lately - (could not see a thing on dogging though ).

All you've done is bang on about you you you.

pardon Andrew? where do i do that? all i said i would install for a decent system and he could see it on his smartphone for £1k - and thats no lie, after that i was countering James advice (and at the time possibly others later) telling the inexperienced o/p to spend all his budget on one camera - well thats what i thought?

Nothing about the particular kit in question

nreally not making sense now, so why should i post the kit list without further discussion? DVR wrack mounted free standing - located in the airing cupboard/loft lol!

- and more pertinently, how any of it could be right for the OP

going by the web page i nener looked at according to you, he is looking at kit very similar in content to whats on that web page within his budget, and you say you looked at???? - i'm no detective, but i could claim in my defence, that's a direct clue to what the O/P actually considering buying, and was asking a fair question from those who work professionally in this field, about gay clubs, or our opinion on 3k cameras and NOT DM DVRs imo

(if it was genuine in the first place).

not going to persue conjecture, so in absence of proof otherwise...............

Ask yourself this. How did the OP decide to choose that company for the kit/offer?

Andrew, while i do have a crystal ball filled with Old Ovaltine grouts, even that won't help me read the o/p's mind

Now go and

A) check the company and the kit out.

B ) Have a go at looking up cctv kit and see how long it takes before you finally land on that particular company.

with my answers above - that comment is sheer pricless!

Arfur

[Cubit]

with my answers above - that comment is sheer pricless!

Arfur

wtf are you on about Arf??

you might actually try answering the questions posted.

[PeterJames]

very true, and why i have my car fixed in a local garage, so i don't get my hands dirty, but do you advise he should he also go buy a Mercedes and chop the Skoda RS or whatever he is driving?

for domestic you over egging the cake imo dear boy, remember its me that installs it and i use a forums member trade supplier because i don't like to fit kit that go's wrong

Arfur

You may think whatever you like Arfur the way I see it there is little point to a CCTV system if it doesnt record what you need when you need it to record it, doesnt store the recording for long enough for you to notice an incident has happened, the quality isnt sufficient enough to use in court or not watermarked, and switch's it self off every two minutes when your not watching it.

Ive tested many of these so called budget kits and wouldn't trust one to prop a door open, now I'm not saying you would sell a domestic system anything like I described above, what I am say is neither would I and I cant do it for £1000

[arfur mo]

You may think whatever you like Arfur the way I see it there is little point to a CCTV system if it doesnt record what you need when you need it to record it,

and i totally agree Peter, but do you not also agree what you say is directly affected by any systems design (meaning camera numbers and placement) as much as price paid?, an expensive kit would be just as useless with cameras placed or directed in he wrong locations/directions.

doesnt store the recording for long enough for you to notice an incident has happened, the quality isnt sufficient enough to use in court or not watermarked, and switch's it self off every two minutes when your not watching it.

very broad brush to use here imo, Ebay kit, well you takes your chances, i mainly use System Q aliens on smaller kit and their larger DVR range as needed. imo it very good to, not had any issues with recorded quality, with evidential needs thus far or reliability.

i have a one 'budget' DVR that 'protects' a market gold stall, cameras everywhere, great big CCTv warning signs, but they get so much snatched by numpties. the owner knows how to make the cds blindfolded - the kit is budget priced but cost more back then than todays comparable budget units worked faultlessly for over 8+ years solid and at many convictions due to the recordings made, which are retained for1 month on te hard drive, i've not even changed a PSU or camera in all that time.

I've tested many of these so called budget kits and wouldn't trust one to prop a door open, now I'm not saying you would sell a domestic system anything like I described above, what I am say is neither would I and I cant do it for £1000

Peter, your shopping in the wrong budget suppliers, i honestly suggest you try System Q's excellent range of kit, meets all requirements of recoded evidence, and records for a month having been ordered with the correct size hard drive installed (as you know, 30 days being the limit under the DPA guidelines without dispensation).

Arfur

[Cubit]

Arf

The relevance of your posts on the advantages and benefits of the kit you fit in relation to the original post being nothing more than a weak attempt to create a Google link is??

You will notice we are all avoiding naming said company...with good reason.

[PeterJames]

You may think whatever you like Arfur the way I see it there is little point to a CCTV system if it doesnt record what you need when you need it to record it,

and i totally agree Peter, but do you not also agree what you say is directly affected by any systems design (meaning camera numbers and placement) as much as price paid?, an expensive kit would be just as useless with cameras placed or directed in he wrong locations/directions.

Your point being?

doesnt store the recording for long enough for you to notice an incident has happened, the quality isnt sufficient enough to use in court or not watermarked, and switch's it self off every two minutes when your not watching it.

very broad brush to use here imo, Ebay kit, well you takes your chances, i mainly use System Q aliens on smaller kit and their larger DVR range as needed. imo it very good to, not had any issues with recorded quality, with evidential needs thus far or reliability.

Does it do the above and not just your opinion please

i have a one 'budget' DVR that 'protects' a market gold stall, cameras everywhere, great big CCTv warning signs, but they get so much snatched by numpties. the owner knows how to make the cds blindfolded - the kit is budget priced but cost more back then than todays comparable budget units worked faultlessly for over 8+ years solid and at many convictions due to the recordings made, which are retained for1 month on te hard drive, i've not even changed a PSU or camera in all that time.

U Huh

I've tested many of these so called budget kits and wouldn't trust one to prop a door open, now I'm not saying you would sell a domestic system anything like I described above, what I am say is neither would I and I cant do it for £1000

Peter, your shopping in the wrong budget suppliers, i honestly suggest you try System Q's excellent range of kit, meets all requirements of recoded evidence, and records for a month having been ordered with the correct size hard drive installed (as you know, 30 days being the limit under the DPA guidelines without dispensation).

I buy from Sys Q already,spent over £5k with them this month some of there stuff is ok for the money dependent on what you are using it for, I have used there DVR's in the past and you cant knock em for price, but they simply dont do what you need them to do, the same as the Cop stuff and LJD cheapo recorders, whenever customers have said to me that they would like to use me but they dont like my price I have tried a cheapo recorder and without fail its cost me more than they saved, I build my own recorders this way I can make them do anything I need them to do

[IAS]

as you know, 30 days being the limit under the DPA guidelines without dispensation.

Arfur

can`t seem to find this - could you you post details where this comes from? Thanks

[PeterJames]

can`t seem to find this - could you you post details where this comes from? Thanks

Its not true another myth

8.3 Retention

The DPA does not prescribe any specific minimum or maximum retention periods which apply to

all systems or footage. Rather, retention should reflect the organisation’s own purposes for

recording images.

You should not keep images for longer than strictly necessary to meet your own purposes for

recording them. On occasion, you may need to retain images for a longer period, where a law

enforcement body is investigating a crime, to give them opportunity to view the images as part

of an active investigation.

[IAS]

Its not true another myth

rather thought that was the case yes -

http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/ico_cctvfinal_2301.pdf