Wired Alarm Need Radio Expansion

[Guest Detached]

It's a long story but basically my house was pre wired for a wired alarm system and the electrician didn't do what I asked. I am left with back and front doors that have no cable run, and with the dry walling I think it is pretty impossible to get any cable to them.

I have been considering an alarm like the Scantronic 9651 with the radio expansion module and two wirelss contacts for the doors. All other sensors will be wired and the cabling and fused spur exists in a cupboard.

I need 6 X PIR + the usual battery, bell box etc.

I have two cables installed for a hall RKP and bedroom RKP and am considering prox tags too.

Can anyone please advise any other suitable systems?

I am really annoyed that I have to use wireless after paying for a pre wire but I put it down to experience

[Guest Oxo]

Galaxy G2-20 does all the above and can also text you.

Then you could use fobs or radio transmitters to set/unset.

[Monty]

Ion 40 will cover all you require or if you want to go one better M6oo with MR node

[james.wilson]

will the 9651 take wireless? i didnt think it did?

9751 will. or the galaxy as has already been mentioned

[arfur mo]

Risco G490 or the higher end G595 both have VoCom voice dialler built in abd digital communicators for later take over and monitoring..

both give 9 wired zones (if you count keypad zone), plus add on the radio expander and you get 8 radio zones + allows 8 radio fobs.

like cars we all have our favourites and all are good kit - but i'd ask with full respects can you personally understand the engineers manual (considering when many engineers struggle with the terminology), and what happens if you can't, or having installed you get false alarms?.

to be very honest unless you have messed with alarm panels before, you could save a lot of hair being removed and finger nail ends bitten getting in a company, its not just a case of sticking it on the wall, the design and programming element is also a sever learning curve, mainly due to the sophisticated levels of even the cheapest of today's panels.do you really want to go through this for a one off?

you could buy some very good kit but not find a company ready to take it over = potential; for a lot of lost expense.

Arfur

[hpotter]

do you need the contacts on the door? If so, a competent alarm eng should be able to make a good job of it.

the 9651 cant be expanded, wired or wireless, 9751 as james said, can.

also make sure you get 9943 keypads if you want prox.

[Alarm Protection]

I would go for the Gardtec 490x panel but s Arf says these are not easy to programme from a DIY point of view.

If the cable is already there and spur etc i would suggest you get 3 quotes in from companies and take it from there.

[Guest Detached]

I have fitted two Scantronic wireless alarms in previous homes but went for a wired this time as I got fed up changing batteries!

I am happy enough to program the Scantronic after looking at a manual but have no kowledge of the others.

The reason why I think I need door contacts is that I can't see any way of setting the PIR's in hall and kitchen as entry/exit zones and still having an instant alarm from the same PIR's if anyone enters either area by a window.

So my new question is can I use PIR's instead of door contacts in these areas?

[arfur mo]

I have fitted two Scantronic wireless alarms in previous homes but went for a wired this time as I got fed up changing batteries!

I am happy enough to program the Scantronic after looking at a manual but have no kowledge of the others.

The reason why I think I need door contacts is that I can't see any way of setting the PIR's in hall and kitchen as entry/exit zones and still having an instant alarm from the same PIR's if anyone enters either area by a window.

So my new question is can I use PIR's instead of door contacts in these areas?

tbh without seeing your place we can't accurately asses whats best or in fact viable, as a rule of thumb for the kitchen if you go PIR any penetration willl trigger it, a door contact can be bypassed by accident if the panel is kicked in by the intruder and they don't open the door.

been a while since i worked on scanny panels, but iirc you set the hall as 'access' then set 'access zones to act as entry route in part set', i'm sure engineers with more knowledge of this panel will accurately post.

Arfur

[Monty]

You should Always have a contact starting the E/E timer so yes you need the contacts.