Calvinboogle Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 this is basically on ssaib policy for acpo :I am aware that this employment is subject to a police record check and I consent to such a check being performed. This has been explained to me and I understand spent convictions are not considered by the police in assessing my suitability. I authorise the police to inform my employer if they consider me to be an unsuitable employee under their Force Policy on Security Systems, because of any criminal convictions. CONVICTONS IN BEING UNSPENT plus a caution is not a conviction and due to ROA 2008 it is automatically spent
alterEGO Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 I wouldn't think it would show up, it should though.
A-G Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 You said you were "a kid". That's an important point. If you were under 18 years old I'm fairly sure it won't count against you ... as I understand it anything not involving a detention is scrapped when you turn 18. Hope this helps. . . . PM me for access to the SSAIB members discussion area.
PeterJames Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 You said you were "a kid". That's an important point. If you were under 18 years old I'm fairly sure it won't count against you ... as I understand it anything not involving a detention is scrapped when you turn 18. Hope this helps. QFA Also caution is dealt out straight away therefore the conviction is probably considered as spent. We had an engineer apply for a job with a drink driving ban (DD is Criminal now) his ban was about to end we applied for Police screening and he failed, we applied a week after the ban and he passed
Calvinboogle Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 QFA Also caution is dealt out straight away therefore the conviction is probably considered as spent. We had an engineer apply for a job with a drink driving ban (DD is Criminal now) his ban was about to end we applied for Police screening and he failed, we applied a week after the ban and he passed so when his conviction was spent he passd the screening? was that with the SSAIB? ...well im quite sure now as ive been reading on the ACPO policy ,SSAIB complies with.That they dont consider spent convictions or cautions in the suitabilty for the job so hopefully fine ey
arfur mo Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Imho a caution being concided as part of a criminal record is very harsh, you have not been prosecuted yet no avenue to defend yourself, and so set a gauge for the level of misdemeanour for others to see your suitability or judge you by. Makes me wonder if challenge under human rites it would stand up? Several years ago a radio solicitor stated a licence endorsement expires after 4 years, becomes as though it never happened, to the point of slander if used against you in some way. If so, it should also apply to arbitary cautions, the idea of the endorsement and a caution is you behave for a set period while under threat of more culmative punitive action, you get used to behaving to avoid that, so it serves it's purpos, without a blight on you life forever for a silly action. Speeding is far mode dangerous to the public than bilking a train fare (I don't condone either btw). Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
MrHappy Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Imho a caution being concided as part of a criminal record is very harsh, you have not been prosecuted yet no avenue to defend yourself, and so set a gauge for the level of misdemeanour for others to see your suitability or judge you by. the caution is an admission of guilt, you don't have take it & I would advise anyone not to accept one Mr Veritas God
alterEGO Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 the caution is an admission of guilt, you don't have take it & I would advise anyone not to accept one I got one of those request for driver info today They will be able to do a road wars special of alarm engineers soon.
james.wilson Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 agreed you can have cautions for criminal damage, shoplifting etc. sorry OP id rather know you had those issues and decide against (if relevant) rather than not be told. We have had people fail crb check due to theft, burgalry, gbh etc. But were previously employed by a company inspected by those you mention. I assume they got the conviction after employment but we have to do regualar checks for this reason. Sorry im sure your an ok guy but i hope you understand with what we do and what we protect that I personally wouldnt want anyone with any history. There is a credit check element now on our checks and if thats relevant then i think the train ticket is also. Im not so sure that your drug one is, but it would depend on the substance imo securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
MrHappy Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 I got one of those request for driver info today I would complete it ASAP with the driver details taking a copy for records & ensure it is posted promptly. In the unlikey event of it getting lost in the postal system they write to you 6-8 weeks later, you can either phone or relpying in writting then provide a the photocpy Mr Veritas God
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