Guest sparky11 Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I have a friend who had a Scantronic 9853 with wired expander fitted last year. Since then, there has been some kind of disagreement between the two party's and he has asked me if i can make an alteration to the programming. I'm an electrician but by no means experienced 'security installer'. I've fitted a few Veritas panels in my time but haven't had the pleasure of this particular Scantronic. After a lot of digging around on the internet, i managed to find a copy of the programmers guide (not ideal i know). From reading the book, and asking him what appears on the keypad when he sets it - i've been able to figure out that it's set as a Single system rather than Partitioned. The garage has it's own keypad and PIR, an individual user code has been setup so that his staff can access the garage (and only the garage) which is on Level D. The idea being that they enter the garage door and unset that level, leaving the other levels (rest of the house) still set. It's definitely a different code to his master one, but he seems to think that this 'garage code' is unsetting the whole house in a similar fashion to the master one. I've studied the guide from back to front and from what i've read - assigning a code to just one Level is not possible in a single system?? This can only be achieved in a partitioned system? IN SUMMARY - CAN A USER CODE BE SET TO JUST SET/UNSET ONE LEVEL IN A SINGLE SYSTEM? I'm just trying to get an idea of what is possible with the existing programming. If it's a case of the whole thing needing re-programming to a Partitioned system, i'm going to advise him to make amends with the original installer and save myself a potential headache. Appreciate any advice. Thanks.
james.wilson Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I'd agree you can't limit like that without using partitions. securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
arfur mo Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 Could be the garage zones are Unset via using a cleaner code? Possible Issue with the above is disturbance to the house via the internal warnings, may be ok but worth checking out if setting/insering will be a disturbance to the house side. Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
james.wilson Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 but wont a cleaner code only allow set? and if in level mode it will disarm the lot by default unless they select what to disarm. I dont know the scanny myslef but on a castle if you use levels you cant limit users to levels as they are like part sets. You need groups or partitions for that securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
Guest sparky11 Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 No mention of a 'cleaners code' in the programmer guide? What command would it be? I came to the conclusion that the panel is set to Single system by the fact that when he enters his master code, the keypad displays... System OK Set? It's my understanding that if it was partitioned it would display; System OK Set? ABCD allowing you to choose a partition to leave out. Does this sound about right?
arfur mo Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 but wont a cleaner code only allow set? and if in level mode it will disarm the lot by default unless they select what to disarm. I dont know the scanny myslef but on a castle if you use levels you cant limit users to levels as they are like part sets. You need groups or partitions for that I'm not sure on scanny, but think you can on later panels than i'veI used. There are panels that allows pre programmed zones to be switched off/set by cleaner user code, opposed ti a simple 'set only' option. This o/p's site has 2 keypads, possible it is in 'area's' and that keypad is in garage 'area' (or 'ward'). Or system is part set with garage and downstairs dwelling on, which i'd guess would not be to good for this stuation. GardTec G595's and G840's have that user kevel facility (as an example), i'd need a bog in the scanny manual to be sure, but there is enough scanny fans in here to beat me it . Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
sjsturner Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 I'm not sure on scanny, but think you can on later panels than i'veI used. There are panels that allows pre programmed zones to be switched off/set by cleaner user code, opposed ti a simple 'set only' option. This o/p's site has 2 keypads, possible it is in 'area's' and that keypad is in garage 'area' (or 'ward'). Or system is part set with garage and downstairs dwelling on, which i'd guess would not be to good for this stuation. GardTec G595's and G840's have that user kevel facility (as an example), i'd need a bog in the scanny manual to be sure, but there is enough scanny fans in here to beat me it . Arfur it has to be partitioned mate then you can assign those areas to the user codes dont think it will work any other way. tbh its not that much bother to do it providing you can access engineers?
arfur mo Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 it has to be partitioned mate then you can assign those areas to the user codes dont think it will work any other way. tbh its not that much bother to do it providing you can access engineers? i think the o/p is looking for a bit more guidance in this, he has the manual it eems, not sure if he has engineer access though Arfur If you think education is difficult, try being stupid!!!!
hpotter Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 it has to be partitioned mate then you can assign those areas to the user codes dont think it will work any other way. tbh its not that much bother to do it providing you can access engineers? qfa & if op has manual, can default no probs....
Guest sparky11 Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Yeah i have the manuals - in the process of getting the engineer codes now. What's the general consensus with regards to programming, is it more straightforward to program with the software (which i don't have) or just use the keypad?
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