A-G Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I have asked them to tell me what brish standers and leval the system has been fitted to waiting for there reply from them I like that a lot. .....and I'd love to see their reply, but I suspect you won't get a proper one. . . . PM me for access to the SSAIB members discussion area.
MrHappy Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I assume you live in this building ? Also is there somebody there 24/7 as staff (caretaker, security guard,reception desk) Mr Veritas God
sparky999 Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 has anyone got a copy off the regs on fire systems that could send me the bit that says about sounders Hi Steve Try this link Pete BS Flats Peter Robinson Freelance M:07889038650
a1steve Posted May 4, 2011 Author Posted May 4, 2011 I assume you live in this building ? Also is there somebody there 24/7 as staff (caretaker, security guard,reception desk) Ya I llive in this block and we dont have a cartaker or security guard at night or weekends
a1steve Posted May 4, 2011 Author Posted May 4, 2011 sorry forgot to say every apartment has a stand alone 12v mains smoke detector
norman Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 make sure you get your free £60 log book for the consultation. I would love to see what it's made of. Hopefully something fireproof in your case..... Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
a1steve Posted May 5, 2011 Author Posted May 5, 2011 yesterday are block had a fire risk assement by total fire service ldt http://www.totalfireservicesltd.co.uk/clients2.htm I asked the following 1. Why have sounders been fitted on the 9 floor flat roof outside and also shows a sounder on the 12 floor roof ? 2. If there was a fire at 3 am in the car park the fire alarm has triggered but the redcarse is not working so no one would know that there is a fire in the block because there is no sounders on any off the floors and we have also removed the sounder on the 12 floor. This is why I think we should not be removing the sounder on the 12 floor because it would let someone in the block know that there is a fire. so were would be stand if this was to happen ? This is what they said In regard to 1, (I have identified in section 10 of the review) I can see no reason for the sounder in 214/215 or any other sounder outside the car park areas. In regard to 2, I have also explained the normal evac strategy for flats in section 10 (i.e. stay put) therefore due to the building fire resistance and compartmentation there should be no to have a fire alarm signal relayed to a sounder in some part of the building above. If the redcare is working this would also address the writers concerns, however even if it wasn't working I refer to the answer above. anyone got any feedback on this it would help. I have asked them to tell me what brish standers and leval the system has been fitted to waiting for there reply from them This is the reply to what standards the system has been fitted to. I dont think he knows what he is talking about Although installations are completed to British Standards, fire risk assessments are done taking the building on its own merit and working out the recourse to avoid risks and contain fire (should there be an incident). Andy has over 30 years experience as an consultant and is qualified to assess. His finding stated that as the building is compartmentalised and the procedure in the event of a fire is to stay put, the sounder could be removed. It’s causing Rosemary distress as it’s so loud each time the fire alarm is activated. First City Fire have been instructed to remove the sounder and configure the fire panel as necessary. You can find the British Standard online, via the year of completion which was 2006 for Block Two
MrHappy Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 If the plan is say in the flat during a fire, is the lack of sounders dangerous cause the tennates can unwittingly wander around a possibly burning building? Mr Veritas God
IAS Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 This is the reply to what standards the system has been fitted to. I dont think he knows what he is talking about I`m sure he knows exactly what he is talking about.
parklife Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 what about alerting people in the communal ares stairs corridors. or even people coming in to the building
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