jb-eye Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Took maintenace on today for a FA. It has a shutter over a servery that drops when the FA sounds. issue is The shutter is conected to the Sounder Curcuit and drops when the panel is tested on a class change i.e. the fire relay dosent change. is there a deviation for this? Customers!
Rulland Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Yes-go through side door to collect your dinner.
james.wilson Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 I thought so. I thought you couldnt connect things to the sounder circuit? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount.
Rulland Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 I've seen shed loads of premises where access gear etc has been 'toggled' via relay on the sounder circuit-easiest option for fire release when required,so is it wrong?.
MrHappy Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 so is it wrong?. silance = reset Mr Veritas God
Rulland Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 True-but surely one doesn't silence just for the shear hell of it-you silence/reset after confirming that a valid alarm state no longer requires action. At which point anything attached to the sounder circuit may be reset also. "sorry mi lord but mrs Jones burned to death because a polish person who worked here didn't know what the procedure was"..........it does happen unfortunately!. One will never cover all eventualities either by legislation or trying to cover all possibilities.
MrHappy Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 True-but surely one doesn't silence just for the shear hell of it-you silence/reset after confirming that a valid alarm state no longer requires action. At which point anything attached to the sounder circuit may be reset also. "sorry mi lord but mrs Jones burned to death because a polish person who worked here didn't know what the procedure was"..........it does happen unfortunately!. One will never cover all eventualities either by legislation or trying to cover all possibilities. Ain't that what happened to Mr Morris ? Mr Veritas God
Rulland Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 I don't know the particular ins and outs of that case-but it's a sure fire fact what happened will happen again.
MrHappy Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 a bodged fire alarm that did activate, http://www.info4fire.com/news-content/full/fire-alarm-contractor-sentenced-under-fire-safety-order http://www.info4fire.com/news-content/full/fatal-fire-care-home-manager-fined-for-fire-safety-breach 11k for bodger £515 for silencer its very important to document issues with system Mr Veritas God
jb-eye Posted February 18, 2012 Author Posted February 18, 2012 I thought so. I thought you couldnt connect things to the sounder circuit? hmm! now that begs a monitoring issue with same job. i class changed two buildings but have only monitoring on one fire panel. Now if the other panel goes into fire i will get zero, so i was toying with using a relay wired to the sounder instead of the fire relay Customers!
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