Cubit Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Alarmtek, ill always listen but afaik only nsi is a non profit org. But you need ukas inspection for approval. While im not sure how much or what ukas do, and we have the situation atm where anyone can do what they want as long as its not called an 'intruder alarm system'. It does change the game. IMO it chnages it massivly. I know know i can install anything. Whatever my customer demands. As long as im not stupid enough to call it an alarm, or a cctv system, or and access control system then rules and regs are totally optional. top prize goes to what we call these systems as long as its not security. im sorry here as i can bypass the bwf. but really what a f##king joke! They are both Private Limited by guarantee - not for profit. Note. Not for profit does NOT mean they don't make one. And the salaries at NSI are eye popping. Average is £44k So best you start issuing them certificates to keep them in the lifestyle they've become accustomed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnealon Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 It does seem daft that the fine is so low. Do you have a way of raising that point. It should be the fine that is higher than the fee. Like road tax etc. But 2k seems steep. Is that per annum or forever? It's 2k every 2 years for the PSA to rubber stamp your approval and another 1k per year for certification This price is based on your turn over with 2k being the minimum charge www.realsecurity.ie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alterEGO Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Best wins a secware prize. Le insecure kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 It's 2k every 2 years for the PSA to rubber stamp your approval and another 1k per year for certification This price is based on your turn over with 2k being the minimum charge Seems like a self defeating pricing structure. What's the logic of such ridiculous pricing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alterEGO Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 About the same as being NSI or SSAIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 About the same as being NSI or SSAIB Indeed. Seems it's yet another money earner, not a sensible means of regulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnealon Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Indeed. Seems it's yet another money earner, not a sensible means of regulation You've hit the nail on the head. They were originally set up to regulate the manned guarding sector after a few high profile incidents involving bouncers, then some one had the bright idea to include the electronic side of it www.realsecurity.ie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.wilson Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Like the SIA here then? securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalwitness Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Problem with the PSA type regulation is that it is "stick" driven and not "carrot" driven. Regulation can only work if the consumer supports it by using registered companies but what is in it for the consumer? Faced with two quotes, one from a regulated company and another from an unregulated, all things been equal the unregulated quote would normally be cheaper for often the same equipment (or brands that mean nothing to the consumer), would not take much convincing to go with the cheaper quote, after all security is often a grudge purchase. While you should be guaranteed a high quality installation from the regulated company, you are not guaranteed to get a low quality installation from the unregulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 nsi / ssaib is often too high a premium for the average consumer, I can't see a statutory regulation embracing the inspectorates & giving a them a "gas safe" type footing ? Now in my warped opinion somebody like BSIA / FSA may want to devise a security passport / type scheme where staff could be "pre screened" & then at later stage formerly qualified this may be adopted by industry Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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