james.wilson Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 and it always false alarmed thats one reason there why its more than screwing stuff to a wall. We have all used sh#t in the past. but my audi is looked after by a specialist, ie an independant not a main dealer. someone who knows the stuff properly. i pay for that and im happy to. As I said to a cleint's employee when he enquired on the skill level required to be an alarm engineer, In theory its just switches & button pressing to skill level of getting you nan's vcr to record east enders when she's down the bingo, if you where to shave a monkey & kick him though a branch of arco, as long as he's got pair of work trousers & set of screwdrivers you've got yourself an alarm eng.... however in pratice it don't quite work that why i do have to qfa securitywarehouse Security Supplies from Security Warehouse Trade Members please contact us for your TSI vetted trade discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adi Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 i dont agree mate. I accept that to make something work needs less skill, but to make it work well and be designed right then it does take a skill. Plus installation is a skill etc. Yep, thats the difference. As I said to a cleint's employee when he enquired on the skill level required to be an alarm engineer, In theory its just switches & button pressing to skill level of getting you nan's vcr to record east enders when she's down the bingo, if you where to shave a monkey & kick him though a branch of arco, as long as he's got pair of work trousers & set of NEON screwdrivers you've got yourself an alarm eng.... however in pratice it don't quite work that why I really can't be ar**** with it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHappy Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 We have all used sh#t in the past. but my audi is looked after by a specialist, ie an independant not a main dealer. someone who knows the stuff properly. i pay for that and im happy to. Where on with a computer co install. in a nicer bit of happy land, adjacent is a "BMW specialist", their web site ect has piccys of the cars they ticker with, highlights inc 6's, a Ferrari & the Rozzer's X5, at one time the premises had an ADT alarm but presently there appears to be no boxes on the building. An RA would say 10k + of snapon & diagnostic kit which IMHO is quite thieveable ? The lack of alarm says (IMHO) uninsured ? Mr Veritas God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 The design element is the only specialist part of our trade anymore, but for domestics this isn't the case. So how come we get so many people on here asking such simple questions? I think engineers are very skilled the problem is they dont really realise it at all because they do it every day. I have a new trainee every two or three years or so and the difference between a newbie and a two year apprentice is miles and miles, compare the two year with my 20 year experienced blokes and you could fly to the moon and back on the difference between them. Yes you can fit an alarm by reading the instructions supplied, but the instructions wont tell you what you did wrong when it doesnt work, it will only tell you how not why, and sometimes wont tell you where either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 So how come we get so many people on here asking such simple questions? I think engineers are very skilled the problem is they dont really realise it at all because they do it every day. I have a new trainee every two or three years or so and the difference between a newbie and a two year apprentice is miles and miles, compare the two year with my 20 year experienced blokes and you could fly to the moon and back on the difference between them. Yes you can fit an alarm by reading the instructions supplied, but the instructions wont tell you what you did wrong when it doesnt work, it will only tell you how not why, and sometimes wont tell you where either. Qfa, how many questions are asked on here that are really basic to an 'intruder technician'?, simple changing of pir's, batteries, tamper probs-the list is endless, experience and training put us in the driving seat, as always the questions are usually money driven!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb-eye Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 So how come we get so many people on here asking such simple questions? I think engineers are very skilled the problem is they dont really realise it at all because they do it every day. I have a new trainee every two or three years or so and the difference between a newbie and a two year apprentice is miles and miles, compare the two year with my 20 year experienced blokes and you could fly to the moon and back on the difference between them. Yes you can fit an alarm by reading the instructions supplied, but the instructions wont tell you what you did wrong when it doesnt work, it will only tell you how not why, and sometimes wont tell you where either. I can back this up with one of our admin staff who wanted to fit an alarm himself. Baring in ming this guy is exspert in the industry and pretty techie to boot but once it came down to on the ground and screwdrivers out the result was intresting. He got his system working, a term i use loosely. it took a visit of one of our engineers to make the alarm useful. Customers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterJames Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Even so called engineers on here seem to ask the most basic of questions, and still dont understand when theyre given the answer the recent relay question springs to mind. This is a skilled industry its just that engineers are not given the credit they deserve. Why? Well I know engineers dont help themselves, and customers expect too much for too little. And too many company owners have no idea on how to run a business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Even so called engineers on here seem to ask the most basic of questions, and still dont understand when theyre given the answer the recent relay question springs to mind. This is a skilled industry its just that engineers are not given the credit they deserve. Why? Well I know engineers dont help themselves, and customers expect too much for too little. And too many company owners have no idea on how to run a business I wasn't aware 'Driller' is in the industry. My understanding is he does something far more lucrative for a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulland Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I wasn't aware 'Driller' is in the industry. My understanding is he does something far more lucrative for a living. Shiny down pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubit Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Shiny down pipes. Yes, Nice little earner is the annual Inspection, clean and polish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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