Texecom Smoke Detectors - Pretty Awful

[Oxo]

Leg, some back related.

Almost getting there with the treatment, about 96% now but still on the "morphine" although now synthetic as the real stuff does not work as well and this is far less addictive, Also take sleeping tablets but hate to do so, so! None tonight and wide awake.

But fell asleep on the setee not long after you replied. Now wide awake with a back ache. Kin sofa. Not long enough for me, being a short 6`2". Sod it, bit of pain will go with a walk (ish) down the canal and back. And picking up the litter that p r a ts drop.

Keen fisherman and like to see nature as it was intended, we have a group that does regular "sweeps" of stretches of the canal here to tidy up. Also helps my leg and spotting good places to fish.

A canal carp of 13lbs is a better fight than a fishery lake 30 and far harder to catch!!

Anyway, hope you get better soon. Almost at the end of my spin on the pain wheel. Next time a surgeon offers a quick fix I`ll shove his scaple up his rectum

[magpye]

Ha, I'm thinking of going the other way. When I see him in a couple of weeks I'm going to ask if the knife would do any good.

I've had enough, I long for a good nights sleep. Even with the morphine it does not take me through the night. can't remember the last good sleep I had, tell a lie, it was after the facet joint injections 6wks ago, but anaesthetic induced.

Boy I like that stuff.

[Oxo]

I was messing, surgery could possibly assist me , but they are not sure they can pick each nerve out, which is understandable.

So we are going along an alternative route which does seem to be working.

Only thing I have to do is rebuild the leg strength. Used to be able to do all forms of sport, so this is a pisser for me too, and the weight gain!!!

Still, with my height and weight its not so bad..........................unless you read a BMI chart.

Which is total dangly things. Even the docs say it has too many variables.

But now its the light at the end of the tunnel, not another fooking train

As for the Gen, when going under ( you will understand) never counted to more than 4. And one sneaky biatch was talking to me and never told me she had pumped me with knockout, all I remember is turning around and saying to the theater nurse " I remember you" .

Then woke up with tendons cut, in plaster on xmas eve. As I was totally goofed by the general anesthetic.

Still managed to sort out the boys and the ex.....work that out lol.

Not as it sounds BTW

Damn I have rambled, actually had a beer with a m8 @ 16:00 for a change :

PS hope all goes well for you.

[DirectFS]

Hi guys,

I've got a Texecom Premier Elite system and want to also use it as a fire alarm, so I bought a Texecom Exodus OH (Optical & Heat Multisensor).

Having tested them with some small (but pretty ferocious) fires in metal bins (detector right above), I can't rate them as anything other than awful. So awful that a £4 Kidde detector went off a good 30-90 seconds before the Texecom detector, and it was 6+ feet further away than the Texecom! The cheap retail sensor was activated pretty much immediately and with very little smoke, whereas the Texecom needed the fire to be well-established. It pretty much ignored anything other than a TON of smoke.

They're pretty effective in a domestic environment. I would seriously hope to see a cheap (and nasty, by the way) ion based smoke react way quicker than a multisensor too. For one thing, they're designed to react to differing conditions. An ion based smoke will always react excenptionally quickly to the type of fire you set under it - optical less so.

The downside, of course is that many (cheap) ion detectors will also react to the little things, like wind, dust, toast burning, cat farting..... so that could lead to a lot of sleepless nights - where NO fire is present.

TBH, trying to test a smoke detector in the way you describe is less than ideal too - most smoke detectors are least sensitive when the fire is right under them - rather, looking for the presence of smoke going across them - it rises, and travels along the ceiling......

You also have to remember that a multisensor is digitally analysing a number of factors too - including a correlating temperature to sense whether it is actually a fire, or not. So, on that basis, it will be marginally slower, but also more accurate.

It would, in any case, warn you in plenty of time were it a real fire.

The Exodus OH is described by Texecom as being an "optical and heat multisensor detects smouldering fires and fast flaming fires", so I presumed it would be a good all-round detector... but I wouldn't feel comfortable going to sleep and letting the Exodus OH protect me.

Am I missing something here? Are there other alarm-compatible detectors that wouldn't let the house burn down before notifying anyone?

Thanks in advance

Yes, honestly, you are missing a fair bit - you're trying to compare an apple with an orange.

It's "logical" to expect to test using an actual fire - as you did, and get a fast reaction time. But that's not what properly designed smoke detectors will respond to in real conditions. They're set up to monitor, measure, and respond to specific conditions present when real fires occur - which aren't the same as those in a bucket.

Synthetic testing spray has many of the same "chemical" compositions as real fires, which is why it's successfully used by the industry to test these things.

Having used them myself in countless places, I've yet to find a fail. Or one which will react in more than around 8 seconds under proper testing.

Against that, I've spent years ripping out cheap detectors, both battery and mains ones - mainly because they've proven the very lack of reliability you said you needed.

They are good units for a powered non battery solution however.

[DirectFS]

I think you will find they are NOT AWFUL, and what you have stated is YOUR opinion. If they were they would not have a kite mark, and have been certified and tested by BSI.

Is this an "official" Texecom reply?

I'd have expected a more informed response from Texecom reps than above.... some reference to the technical specs might have suited more?

What concerns me is that I'd get a similar response if I phoned tech support with a ....oh I don't know....faulty V2 firmware.....?

#justsaying

[AdrianMealing]

Excuse me?Yes this is an official reply, and I am not a Texecom Rep for you information, I am the product manager and I do not need to justify my posts to you. I have stated a fact without going into a post which is too long and complicated for anybody to read, and what is your problem with Tech support, last time I checked the majority of our customers were more than satisfied, and I would suggest probably the best in our industry. What do you think is wrong with V2 firmware or do you have something to back up the wink?

I appreciate the last line in your previous post as it was the only one I read, yes they are good units, yes we sell loads and yes they are certified to the relevant standards, so what exactly is your point?

[Scotmod]

Is this an "official" Texecom reply?

I'd have expected a more informed response from Texecom reps than above.... some reference to the technical specs might have suited more?

What concerns me is that I'd get a similar response if I phoned tech support with a ....oh I don't know....faulty V2 firmware.....?

#justsaying

Are you actually having a ******* laugh?

[Rulland]

DirectFS, Whilst I found your first post very informative and factual, and therefore useful, I found your second let you down tbh.

[DirectFS]

Excuse me?Yes this is an official reply, and I am not a Texecom Rep for you information, I am the product manager and I do not need to justify my posts to you. I have stated a fact without going into a post which is too long and complicated for anybody to read, and what is your problem with Tech support, last time I checked the majority of our customers were more than satisfied, and I would suggest probably the best in our industry. What do you think is wrong with V2 firmware or do you have something to back up the wink?

I appreciate the last line in your previous post as it was the only one I read, yes they are good units, yes we sell loads and yes they are certified to the relevant standards, so what exactly is your point?

Wow. You're pretty a pretty angry person, aren't you.

FWIW if you actually bothered to read what I wrote elsewhere in the thread, you'd see just fine I actually SUPPORTED Texecom products. That's point one.

Secondly, you still represent Texecom by your own admission - that, in anyone's terms makes you a Tesecom rep, irrespective of position.

Thirdly, I didn't ask you to justify your posts to me..... did I?

Fourth. I don't recall saying ANYWHERE that I have, or had, a problem with Texecom Tech Support. Perhaps you can show me where I stated that?

Fifth. My point was that simply stating "Our products are good, and you're just yammering on" (poetic licence please- I know it isn't precisely what you said) isn't good customer facing service. That why I stated that some justification OF THE PRODUCT, not your post, would have been beneficial to someone who clearly had concerns over his finding with your kit. That was all.

Sixth. I don't think ANYTHING is wrong with 2.01 firmware. I acknowledge that the V2.0 firmware issues were resolved admirably and double quick. I would have thought that might be conveyed by the winky face at the end. It was not intended, and doesn't actually read like any sort of insult of problem.....

Finally - for the record, we use an enormous amount of Texecom kit. And pretty well most of the staff we've ever dealt with have been exemplary. That's why your response above caught me by surprise.

And to the others Scotmod - having a **** laugh in what way, exactly? Rulland? Why - am I not entitled to express an opinion? Is it wrong of me to expect a considered response from someone representing the product?

Perhaps, after all, I've landed on the wrong planet here. It seems I have been absent a little longer than I thought, and that etiquette and such has moved on in that time.

Peace out.

[Oxo]

Lol @ who is angry.

Adrian is one of the nicest, polite person you could wish to meet.